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VK6BE > FUEL 12.01.08 07:54l 62 Lines 3491 Bytes #999 (0) @ WW
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From: VK6BE@VK2TV.#MNC.NSW.AUS.OC
To : FUEL@WW
Well I know nothing of the installations and the regs governing same in
Sydney, Barry, but what you say is complete news to me. Maybe Sydney is
not doing it right. You have your own state regulations as have we
also.What about the other cities? Nothing reported here.
Along with many thousands in my state I have been using LPG for over 20
years with a tank in the boot with no problems at all, and in three
different cars. All our taxis statewide use LPG and so do nearly all of
the hundreds of thousands of tourists coming through our state from the
other states.It is used in loaders in yards and factories and has been for
at least 50 years. Not one report of an explosion have I heard.
In a crash serious enough to cause a fire and an explosion it is doubtful
whether anyone would be alive anyway in a crash that serious.I would like
to see some figures on the accidents to which you refer. There can't be
many of them or we would have had repercussions over here.
However I have heard rare reports of tanks exploding in fires in
buildings. However any kind of fuel would explode under intense heat in
a factory fire. In houses that use tanks and in service stations the gas
tanks are remote and so the problem is ulikely to arise.Most of the houses
using gas in cities have it reticulated from a street main just as has
been done for well over a century. Gas leaks or fuel leaks of any kind
will make an explosion likely so that risk is not confined to car
installations by any means. In our car installations any leak from the
system causes the gas to be automatically cut off from the tank, so leaks
are virtually impossible. I don't know how thick the metal in the tank is
but it is so thick that it would take a horrific blow to rupture it,
enough to destroy the car anyway..
The advantages of using LPG in vehicles are so great that the Governments,
WA State and Commonwealth, pay the entire cost of conversion of private
vehicles to LPG. That should tell its own story. Governments do not throw
away money, and in this state at least there are stringent regulations for
the installers who have to have a licence from the WA Department.
And incidentally we have the largest LNG plants in Australia if not in the
world in our north, with more being built. They have to be where there is
a port to allow loading into ships, or piped south to the capital city.
They are not remote from the towns but right in them. No explosions.
What would happen in London is hardly relevant. We are not in London and
your scenario is purely hypothetical.
Bob VK6BE.
> e LPG there have indeed been a number of exposions or burnouts with taxis in particular in Sydney.
A LPG blevy is a very dangerous situation.
> If one was looking like happening near me I would not be happy until I got at least 300 metres
away. Blevies on rail cars have wiped out towns in the US.
> This why there is such virulent opposition to LNG terminals being near cities. They are
usually well out to sea. If one went up in the Thames it would remove
central London.
> The NSW police rescue squad has a film called Blevy. A real eye opener.
> The problem from what I gathered both from the film and the talk by the NSWFB was if the
breaching of the tank occurs such that the gas is playing on the tank
itself and someone opens the boot and the internal light comes on; BOOM.
>
> Then the flame burns a hole in the tank and BIG BOOM !
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