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VE3WBZ > AUTO     04.12.11 15:04l 76 Lines 2960 Bytes #999 (0) @ WW
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Subj: RE: Bob VK6BE on Air Compress
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From: VE3WBZ@VE3LSR.#SCON.ON.CAN.NOAM
To  : AUTO@WW

TO: AUTO @WW
FR: VE3WBZ

DT: Sunday, December 4th.,2011 @ 0708hrs EST

<< Quoting VK6BE to AUTO @WW >>
> From         : VK6BE         To           : AUTO  @WW
> Type/Status  : B$            Date/Time    : 03-Dec 00:33
> Bid          : A60206VK6BE   Message #    : 57453
> Title        : Re: In re-re reply to Bob VK6BE
>
> Pete, how does the compressor run? ON air? Must be fuel somewhere and
> pollution.
> Bob VK6BE.

Hello Bob and the auto buffs @WW ....

  Gee Bob ... below you quoted back to me, what seems to be the answer.

  Now to figure out the options?  The Onboard compressor,.
Air Compression by <A> DC power , <B> Motor driven by the vehicle...
but then MDI claims it has an onboard compressor, so maybe you plug
the car into hydro-electric and use the onboard at home, which
is <C> AC power at home or elesewhere.

Bob quotes me partially below.... <hope it is all there>

>> In my answer and looking at the
>> picture, and other sources, the Air Car...with it's own compressor
>> on board loads the air fuel then pushes it thru the engine to
>> propel the car.   Interestting.    I have a Air Pig that I can
>> put compressed air into to use in remote areas as a high air
>> pressure source.   I am wondering now, how many Km I would get?

 OK ... it is all going into a fuel cell.  Compressed air stuff
as my "Air Piggy" tank for remote operation of tools , etc.

What I don't think Bob has grasped, is the fuel for the vehicle is
"air" ..now how can there be polution.  Obviously it is in the
fueling stage of filling the air cell bringing in local air which
is poluted enough.   Just don't fill up in some bad locations where
the air quality is bad.

> [End of Message #57453 from VK6BE]

  The interesting point made by another friend is emergency workers
operating tools in hazard areas where they don't need a source to
can a explosion and fire.   Some of their tools too are air powered
as Ian has described tools from the 1920s, and well enough I can
imagine where that idea was born.

Think of MDI and the Negre family, and their engineering for Formula 1
racing and you can see where they get these ideas from.

BTW ... their concept cars, and there is more of them, dating from
the first one, that show development and engineering, and postive
forward steps.

I can imagine solar cells on the car roof, to activate the onboard
compressor and "top" up the fuel cell.  I see marine applications
that would see me removing my diesel engine for one of these,
and the system could be topped up while we are underway, as well
other systems topped up.

The only problem to be answered by MDI is, how these cars will
cope with the harsh Cannuckian winters?  Or extreme heat, but
then the later is answered by the South American motor company's
interest too!   I wonder  if they ordered or brought a franchise?

73 Pete VE3WBZ

PS: Still interested in Ian's father's tools from 1920s...


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