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VE3WBZ > AUTO 03.12.11 17:25l 151 Lines 6104 Bytes #999 (0) @ WW
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Subj: RE:Ian G0TEZ and LADA etc
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From: VE3WBZ@VE3LSR.#SCON.ON.CAN.NOAM
To : AUTO@WW
TO: AUTO @WW
FR: VE3WBZ
DT: Saturday,December 3rd.,2011 @ 0832hrs EST
Good Morning or G'Day Ian and others reading along....
<< Quoting G0TEZ to AUTO @WW >>
> From : G0TEZ To : AUTO @WW
> Type/Status : B$ Date/Time : 02-Dec 21:25
> Bid : 570118G0TEZ Message # : 57438
> Title : Tata 2 U & Fiat 2
>
> Running on air ?
Sssssh ... some Greenie will now complain there will be no more air
to breath, cuz we're pumping it into the car.
> I remember my father's compressed air drill from the 1920s.
> It was an amazing beast! You could hold it against something at
> low revs and get high torque or pop it through a thin bit of metal
> or wood in an instant at very high revs.
We still have them here, and I used them with , as mentioned my
"Pig" which was a portable tank of air that powered the air driven
tools I had. What always amazed me was the "pig" lasted a long time
and I could pump petrol, even winterize cottage water pipes and
go home in the evening with lots left.
> As for the Tata, you probably mean the one which the experts on the
> Top Gear programme held up for a very good laugh a few months back
> but here in the UK where fuel costs a fortune and cities like London
> have the Congestion Charge which the Tata is exempt from, people
> would give it serious consideration.
I have no idea Ian, what other vehicles TATA Motors have on the road
in India and even exported to UK. I see lots of concept "test cars"
on the road in Brasil, but so far not a Tata. The item I mentioned
well it turns out to be a product of MDI in Europe, and they have
lots of these versions , the funniest is the one seater with no
steering wheel called the "Air".
> After all, people have been driving the Fiat 500 for years now.
Aaaaaah FIAT < Fix It Again Tony > ... yes and it was the model used
for the LADA of Russian fame, as you mentioned in a posting, and
I remember them well, as a friend had one, and a co-worker had a
NIVA and loved it.
I see J Jo on TV now doing commercials for FIAT in the latest push
to establish them here in Canada.
> I know such tiny cars would seem pointless in the USA but they
> are taken seriously in the UK.
I wonder if that is right? MGs and Minis were like VW beatles
brought up by the American consumer. I still see them on the
road all the time in this area. Of course this isn't the USA.
I take it due to what you mentioned the small cars are popular
there for many reasons. My father after the war, brought a big
American car, to his dismay ... the tank would get hung up going
over bridges where his Morgan and MG or Austin or Worselly would not.
Over here my father continued to buy British cars ...why not...great
leather seats, a real engine...and driving lamps that could melt
the paint off a car not dropping his high beams...miss the BIG
switch for the lights in the tin foil I drive today.
> Hands up if you remember the Corgi, the Isetta,tthe Messerschmitt
> and the Heinkel cars.
OK ... can I up my hands over the "Corgi" ? Seem to remember
the latter German cars, but not to touch or see..etc. Aaah
then there was the Super Charged Bristol ... Hands up..or should
I drop'em ?
> Does anyone remember when Fiat which had a name for being rubbish,
> sold it's production line to the USSR so that they could build
> cars using their FIRE engine (Fully Integrated Robotic Engineering)
> on a robotic production line. The Russians turned the feeble Fiat
> into the solid as a tank Lada.
I do remember the deal between FIAT and the USSR to build an auto
plant and turn out the FIAT as the LADA. Over here I hear the
term for the FIAT model , as being called the "Cheese Box"
but thats all. They had their backend body rust or whatever
and they fell off ...but then there were other east bloc cars
that were worse.
> The Lada was the butt of many jokes but I have driven a few and have
> found nothing but praise for them. Better than the Fiat and half
> the price.
I repeat myself. Yes many jokes... "Commie Car" and others but
they were really cheap here and service excellent, as I knew a few
owners. I'd say the LADA model was an improvement of the other as
never saw the backend drop off or hear of one dropping off, and
the seats were As mentioned Russian Army Great coats. Really
a treat to ride in.
> Fiat have improved enormously since those days but, after all,
> you can't have a cheap Russian import beating Italian pride.
> They have never managed to make Fiat as cheap as Lada though.
I can only imagine what happend in the Italian HQ of FIAT after
the LADA came out.
> As for toy engines, I can't comment. Like most farm boys,
> my brother and I were driving around either a Fordson Major or
> a Case, pulling a muckspreader or something equally exciting,
> often in the bitter cold.
Hmmm ... I only remember the CASE and I got on the CASE Cat once
to plow the road to the farm. Yeah open cab and well unprintable
cold... as for the other CASE it was pulling a hay wagon and we
were loading bailed hay for winter feed and other uses.
The only toy engine I had was to demo steam, but then the county
fairs and they had steam engines there from the age of steam.
Goin over the Fourth Bridge in Scotland on the steam train was
fun..and great memorys, but all practical to teach and learn.
The muckspreader, well that was also fun... but then wind direction
and homes being built, and towns then gaining control of country
and farms, and that all ended as did the farms.
> Ta ta for now.
Yeah ta ta for now ...
> 73 - Ian, G0TEZ @ GB7CIP
>
> Message timed: 20:52 on 2011-Dec-02 GMT
> Message sent using WinPack-Telnet V6.80
>
> [End of Message #57438 from G0TEZ]
See you later Ian. I still like that farm you guys had back then
and the area. I would love it. Miss the farm days...but then
I am still rural... except for the summer cottagers... PESTS !
73 Pete VE3WBZ
VE3LSR BBS>
PS: Still love the VW ... great heater...melted my sneakers !!!
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