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KB2VXA > FUEL     08.02.11 19:06l 58 Lines 2854 Bytes #999 (0) @ WW
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Hi Ian and all,

Geothermal in the UK? That's a new one on me but anything is possible I 
suppose. It does come in handy in cold climates being it's done the same 
way Con Edison in New York has been doing it since forever, after the 
superheated steam passes through turbines generating electricity they're 
not done with the "waste steam" quite yet, they heat buildings with it.

Right, it's light and not heat the solar panels use so the output is 
determined by the intensity and duration of sunlight which with today's 
substrate materials can be more than most people realize. The biggest 
hurdle to be overcome is installation cost which in many areas is partly 
at least covered by government rebate, trouble is the average Joe can't 
afford the initial outlay regardless of the rebate. Somehow things would 
go smoother and the greenies happier if the government subsidized the 
costs rather like an insurance pool spreading the cost around but they're 
in business to make money too. Yeah, hold onto it until the last moment 
squeezing every penny of intertest until they bleed. Before I go 
completely off on a rant I'll conclude this paragraph with what my friend 
in New South Wales has in mind, solar hot water which carries a far less 
initial cost.

Oh I know all about what you've been through this winter, my friend in 
Edinburgh keeps me in the pipeline. Never mind the snow, GET USED TO IT 
and stop whinging about a few spells of below freezing temperatures. 
Remember that stiff upper lip? If its not frozen starch it, you don't 
want those above 40 degrees laughing at you now DO you? (;->) Eh, if you 
do ask Pete on the frozen shores of Lake Simcoe how much it costs him to 
keep from freezing you'd have to look up the current exchange rate and 
crunch the numbers, not that they'd mean a whole heck of a lot 
considering the difference in fuel prices which is largely unknown 
without doing even more homework. Just too many variables for my brain to 
handle?

I know what you mean, I'm eager for enough warming where day/night heat 
management and warm clothing will warrant shutting off the furnace too. 
Carbon footprint??? I'd be in big trouble if I type the words that come 
to mind but I'll say that gas doesn't produce carbon and the greenies can 
choke on CO2 for all I care, I'd ather burn coal which IMO smells great 
wafting through the neighborhood. Eh, come to think of it today's boilers 
don't produce any noticable smells, smoke, fly ash or anything resembling 
days gone by. Here's a clue for you, I mentioned Con Edison serving New 
York and guess what they burn right in the heart of the city.

"I am not alone."
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