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VK2AAB > FUEL     23.08.09 02:18l 33 Lines 1443 Bytes #999 (0) @ WW
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Hello Ray & Bob,
                The reason that hydrogen systems  use fuel cells and do not
use the internal combustion engine is the inefficiency of said IC engine.
The fuel  cell and  electric motor  delivers significantly  more power to the
wheels than the IC engine burning the same amount of hydrogen.

Other than the  lifetime of fuel  cells the following  are the reasons I have
seen given for hydrogen not being a goer;

1. The storage is bulky.
2. It leaks, even through the walls of the tanks. 10% per day suggested.
3. The cost of equipping the distribution system.
4. If the hydrogen source is electrolisus the ERoEI is very poor.
5. If the hydrogen source is hydrocarbons the CO2 emmission is very high.
6. 5 defeats the purpose of the excercise.
7. Parking garages need to be specially designed for hydrogen cars.
8. Five times as many delivery tankers required to deliver the fuel.
9. The whole current boot area of a car would be needed for the fuel tank.
10. Cost, reliabilty and lifetime of fuel cells.

These are  just a  selection of  the reasons  I have  read for the whole idea
being dropped. I am no expert myself but the above is repeatedly given as the
reasons hydrogen fuel is not a goer for general use.

Bob, I have asked my son's father-in-law what he knows about the Perth trial.
BTW do you know who is the manufacturer of the Perth busses ?

73 Barry VK2AAB



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