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VK2AAB > FUEL     04.04.09 06:19l 35 Lines 1425 Bytes #999 (0) @ WW
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Well Pete  the item  is not  about CO2,  it was  about the  energy density of
petrol.
It is just that it illustrates how  hard it will be to find a  substitute for
oil and its products.

Can you imagine  a TV station  with 2 or  3 thousand employees all mounted on
bicycles supplying the power for the transmitter ?

No, neither can I, so I guess we will have it all coming via the internet.
But then, how much power is used by the internet ?

Somehow I think we will be using coal to generate electricity for a long time
to come. I see where there is a  controvesy in the UK about a new coal  fired
power station in Kent.

Despite  all the  flapping around  about power  generation,  those  that  are
screaming  in the  streets about  renewables have  not yet  come up  with  an
alternative to freezing in the dark.

Which all reminds me, I have been looking for reports on the susceptibilty of
the  telecommunications system  to a  reduction in  available  oil  and  its
products. I have  found reports on  all sorts of  industry from cement making
to the  manufacture of  furniture but  for something  that is so fundermental
these days, absolutely nothing.

For instance, transoceanic cables, how much plastics and other derivitives of
oil are involved to say nothing of fuel for cable laying ships.

If anyone has ideas on this I would be interested.

73 Barry VK2AAB


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