| |
I0OJJ > JNOS2 25.11.19 11:43l 73 Lines 3026 Bytes #-2345 (0) @ WW
BID : 95395_AA6HF
Read: DF7EAV DJ6UX GUEST
Subj: Re: This BID thing and DUPES and stuff
Path: DB0FHN<OE2XZR<OE5XBR<OE1XAB<HG8LXL<CX2SA<GB7CIP<AA6HF<N2NOV<GB7CIP<
I0OJJ
Sent: 191101/1308z @:I0OJJ.ITA.EU [Rome] obcm1.08-3-g9b42
>From i0ojj%i0ojj.ita.eu@n2nov.ampr.org Fri Nov 1 09:11:12 2019
Received: from n2nov.ampr.org by n2nov.ampr.org ([JNOS]) with SMTP
id AA818317 ; Fri, 01 Nov 2019 09:11:12 EDT
Message-Id: <1BTI0OJJ_002@gb7cip.bbs>
>From: i0ojj@i0ojj.ita.eu
X-JNOS-User-Port: Circuit (CIPOUT:GB7CIP-13 GB7CIP) -> Sending message
From: I0OJJ @ I0OJJ.ITA.EU (Gustavo)
To: JNOS2 @ WW
X-Info: Sent with login password
X-Info: Received by SMTP-gateway
Hi,
On 11/1/19 9:47 AM, ve4klm@ve4klm.#wpg.mb.can.noam wrote:
> VE4KLM > I0OJJ 01.11.19 10:47l 21 Lines 1234 Bytes #1 (0) @ I0OJJ.ITA.EU
> MID : 1BTI0OJJ_001
> X-Flags: Type P Hold ! Prop ! Rep ! Cont ! Erase !
> Read: I0OJJ
> Subj: This BID thing and DUPES and stuff
> R:191101/0947z @:I0OJJ.ITA.EU [Rome] obcm1.08-3-g9b42
> X-Transfer: 01.11.2019 10:47:16l by I0OJJ @ I0OJJ.ITA.EU
> X-Original-Date: 01.11.19 03:38l
> playing the devils advocate, I suppose it was wrong of me to impose this change
> on the suggestion of a minimal number of people (ie, 1), and perhaps we need to
> have a civilized discussion on this. I just took a look at the W0RLI spec and
> all it says is that if a BID is missing, the system receiving the message will
> assign one. I'm brain dead when it comes to the symantecs of BBS mid/bid ops,
> so I depend on others to guid me along. Perhaps the BID assignment is too
> generic so if a BID is missing, the then chances of dupes is huge with the
> simplied way NOS assigned a BID. Gus, you told me probably years ago that
> the BID construct needed to be more 'complex', I forget the word.
probably I said 'more elaborate', so 'more complex' :)
> Perhaps another solution (Dare I say it), is to get away from this over
> simplified NNNNN_CALLSIGN to something that has less chance of creating
> a DUPE, we could eliminate dupes and make everyone happy, perhaps by
> creating a more intelligent BID value (we have 12 characters no ?)
> Just my two cents worth.
One of such a BID/MID styles, different from MBL/RLI/FBB
style, could be the one used by obcm (see the header above),
or those used by other German software (i,e. DPBOX, DIEBOX)
Days ago, I forgot to say that since in some instances the
JNOS2 originate a MID/BID in 'small letters' (see some of
my previous sent messages), the next PBBS (FBB and others)
swapps/converts the 'small' in 'capital' letters, then it
happens if my message (with the MID/BID in capital letters)
is re-proposed to my JNOS2 by a forward partner it is
normally received as a NEW message. So suggest to Maiko to
say to JNOS2, if for example the BID 12234i0ojj is note
(i.e. is a generated or received MID/BID) then the next
received message in small or in capital letters should be
discarded/rejeted.
> This is actually quite fascinating, I need to learn what the real
> issue is here, I'm quite open to ideas, I certainly don't want to shut
> out my colleqaues in Europe and at the same time make my colleagues in
> NA happy as well :)
> Maiko / VE4KLM
Very TNX!!!
--
73 and ciao, gustavo i0ojj/ir0aab/ir0eq
Read previous mail | Read next mail
| |
