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G0TEZ/TPK 1.83c Num 252 04-08-02T10:25:39 GMT: COLNE,Lancs:
I thought I'd try Peter's test 'cold' and see what I get. Thanks for the
description and origin of the word "LID" Peter. I'd often heard it but,
to be truthful, thought it had something to do with internet.
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>From: G4AUX@GB7BOB.#16.GBR.EU
>To : INFO@WW
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>
>G0TEZ wrote:-
>> I don't know what a "LID' is though, perhaps someone can enlighten me.
>
>FYI Ian:-
>
>Are You a Lid?
>
>What is a lid?
>
>Originally, early landline telegraphers coined the term. It was used as a term
>of derision, and applied to inept operators, some of whom placed the lid of a
>tobacco can on their sounders, which had the effect of amplifying and adding a
>"ring" to the clacking of the sounder.
>
>Amateurs adopted the term to describe incompetent operators. Here's a little
>test to see if you are a Lid. Be honest!
>
>1. Do you ever "clear" and stay on the same frequency?
If you mean having a quick listen. YES.
>
>2. Do you ever say "W8XXX, for ID," when giving your call?
> NO.
>3. Do you ever call another amateur, and receiving no answer, say "Negative
>contact"? NO.
>
>4. Do you use the word "personal" when you mean name?
> NO. not even on CB.
>5. Do you use phonetics on repeaters, when you know your signal is full
>quieting? YES, if another station says
he hasn't caught my call.
>
>6. When someone asks you a question, and you're not totally certain of the
>answer, do you give an answer anyway, just because you're afraid of
>appearing less than knowledgeable?
> NO, there's no point.
>7. Do you use the word "break" when trying to get into a QSO or roundtable?
> YES, if they are not polite enough
to leave breaks
>8. Do you (it pains me to ask, but I have to) use 10 signals, as in 10-4,
>10-20, etc.?
> NO.
>9. If you're DXing, do you just go ahead and join the pile-up, without
>knowing exactly whom you're calling...and then have to embarrass
>yourself by asking for the DX station's call?
> NO. QSY a few Kc/s and CQ.
>10. Do people clear, QRT or QSY when you try to join a QSO or roundtable?
> YES and NO. Normally NO but a local
clique disappears when any station
tries to join their private channel
Many are on packet so they know to
whom I refer.
>11. Do you think Macedonia is that town near Cleveland where Paul Brown
>first coached the local high school team?
> NO, I don't know much about Geordie
land except their excellent beer.
>12. Do you think the word "feedline" has something to do with fishing?
> NO. I don't know what it is.
>13. Do you think "copystick" is a synonym for a vertical antenna?
> NO, see 12.
>14. Do you use the term "flatside" to describe a horizontal antenna?
> NO.
>15. Do you break into a QSO or roundtable by announcing W8XXX "listening"?
> YES, sometimes.
>16. Do you carry your station on your hip and think you're a real ham?
> EH!? er NO.
>Scoring:
>1 to 3 yesses--you're like the rest of us
>
>4 to 8 yesses--you're a borderline Lid. Straighten up your act
I got 4. Looking back over my answers. If I stay away from that 'private'
net, I'll be normal.
>9 to 12 yesses--you're a Lid. You need a lot of work. E-mail me. I can pound
>you into shape
>
>13 to 16 yesses--you're a dyed-in-the-wool, hardcore, tin-plated Lid. Cut up
>your license and send it back to the FCC, sell your ham gear, and explore the
>wonders of the chicken band!
>
>
>
>Originally written in 1997 by W8XXX?, however the above parameters
>still apply in 2002.
>
>
>--
>73 de Peter, G4AUX @ GB7BOB.#16.GBR.EU
>Date/Time stamp: 03 Aug 2002 @ 15:28. Z
>Software WinPack V6.70 [Registered]
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Many thanks Peter. I bet quite a few people have learnt a lot and quite a
few are embarassed.
I wonder if we could add one. A station has been calling CQ on 70cm, very
loudly at S9, for the last hour, without saying where he was. He could be
a hundred miles away or at the bottom of my street.
No one has answered him. I wonder if that makes him a lid, or me?
73. Ian.
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