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Hi Roy and all


On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 19:00:00 +0000, g0osw%gb7sou.#48.gbr.eu@gb7cip.ampr.org
wrote:

> From: G0OSW@GB7SOU.#48.GBR.EU
> To  : HELP@GBR
> 
> G0OSWTPK 1.82 Msg N§:6523  Date:19-02-2006  Time:18:57Z
> 
> GM7HUD wrote:-
> 
>>> VK2AWZ wrote:
>>>>	A way to print anything you have on your screen, is to simply hit the
>>>>print screen key. This puts the data into clip board and then you can
>>>>bring up word etc and hit paste.
>>> 
>>
>>> This  won't  work for the ASCII high-bit characters, since a file with
>>> them  in doesn't display correctly either!
>>
>>
>>What utter cobblers.
> 
> No.    What  VK2AWZ was saying was that if you hit the print screen key, it
> will copy what is on the screen.  Great, no problem, but if you load a text
> file  with  hi-bit  ASCII in it into something like notepad or word, unless
> you  have  a  compatable  font, it will look wrong, so "print-screen"ing it
> will  just make an image of the wrong graphics.  THAT was what I meant, not
> that it was impossible by some other means to get the characters right.
> 
> Actually,    there    IS   a  way in which that might work.  The person who
> asked  the  original  question was using XTREE (in DOS obviously, or DOS in
> windows).    Now,  if  you can get XTREE to display as a window rather than
> full  screen,  and provided the correct code page was set up in config.sys,
> you  will  get  the correct display from XTREE in a window, which of course
> you  can  "print-screen".   However, this will likely be white on black (or
> blue if the default XTREE colours are used), and you wouldn't want to print
> a page full of black or blue.  You could of course change the XTREE colours
> to put black on white.
> 
> I  don't  have FireFox, and probably a lot of other people don't, so unless
> there  is  some  other program which allows changing the character encoding
> (i.e., setting the code page), he would still be stuck.
> 
> I  don't  think I ever said the clipboard couldn't copy stuff with the high
> bit  set.  Of  course  it  can, but it can't "undo" the scrambling that has
> occurred by loading the file into something that interprets the graphics as
> something  else  (MS  should  of  course have kept in a character font that
> included  the  character graphics used in the DOS text mode BIOS for such a
> purpose, but then, that would be too easy).
> 
>>The real reason is that the apps you paste into dont have a TTF font that
>>contains the same characters as the Winpack or Terminal FON file. Nothing
>>to do with the clipbaord.
> 
> I've  been  trying  to  find  this  TERMINAL.FON  file.   I assumed it came
> origonally  with  Windows 3.x, but my copy of 3.11 doesn't have it, neither
> does Windows 95 or 98.
>
My reading of the situation corresponded to yours Roy I was going to
post a similar observation as the original post referred to viewing/
printing from notepad/word so the print screen idea would only be
useful at the point the display was correct.
Not sure where Andy's interpretation came from. 

I'm surprised you can't find the terminal font, although I havn't 
tried all flavours it's been available as a font selection in notepad 
in Win98 first edition and is still available in Win2000 on my current 
works machine.

I mentioned the MSdraw font as an option as I often read bulletins 
while at work by logging into GB7PZT's web server interface and 
found the MSDraw font selection in Internet Explorer allowed me 
to view the drawings in the browser window.

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