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FCC rules. For example, you cannot legally call your place or employment
to conduct work related activities. You could not make sales calls over
the autopatch either. Both of these are against the rules.
In the same vein, you can have packet radio, but the messages contained
on it must be non-commercial, no advertizing, no spam (remember there is
a no broadcast rule), nothing could transpire that could be interpreted
as conducting business (Which means you cannot order some widget, pay
your bills, sell amway, career E-bay'er etc) and the messages cannot be
indecent, vulgar, obscene (so checking into your favorite nudie site is
out).
Do you not yet see how hard it would be to allow direct connects to the
internet backbone and filter out illegal content? Devices designed to
filter on keywords, sites etc, can be gotten around very easily (ask any
12 yr old kid), so manual monitoring would still be required to keep the
FCC happy.
But don't take my word for it. Send the FCC an E-Mail outlining your
proposal, and see what THEY say. If you don't maybe I will.....
Dave
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Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 17:14:25 GMT
From: horseshoestew@my-deja.com
Subject: wireless PDA hacking
In article <slrn8tuub0.lnv.nomail@linux.pe1chl.ampr.org>,
nomail@rob.knoware.nl (Rob Janssen) wrote:
> J. Hoffa <J.Hoffa@underground.net> wrote:
> >> In fact one can be surprised that a country like the USA, which is
supposed
> >> to be capitalist, is using this auction system.
>
> >With a deficit of 5 Trillion, we have to be creative in ways of
manufacturing
> >more money, to pay for the programs our representatives think we
need.
>
> What? You guys are still having a deficit in the year 2000?
Hoffa misspoke - we have a National DEBT of 5 Trillion - and have
crushing interest payments. This year, we are running a small budget
surplus - but our politicians are trying to figure out ways to spend it.
> Rob
------- Stewart - N0MHS --------
Wireless Entertainment/Communication Devices(WECs), Networks, and
ublic Radio Services Information(MURS,FRS,GMRS,ARS,CB):
http://www.pubcel.com
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 17:38:08 GMT
From: horseshoestew@my-deja.com
Subject: wireless PDA hacking
In article <0h2E5.2413$524.139665@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
"Hank Oredson" <horedson@att.net> wrote:
>
> The topic was the regular handling of internet email via ham radio, to
> avoid the use of a common carrier internet connection.
The discussion is about PDAs Hank. Nobody is avoiding anything. The
common carriers do not provide equivalent services. There are MANY
cases where you can't use a common carrier, but could use your own
service in a PDA mobile application. I'm not about to carry around
BOTH, because I "might" be able to use the common carrier service
sometimes - that is silly.
The fact is - the big carriers are not going after this market because
they know it isn't worth investing R&D dollars on a service that it
will be archaic in a few years when TV Channel 60-60 are converted to
high-speed mobile digital access services.
There IS a small window of opportunity here. But guys like you are too
busy trying to treat digital data with kid gloves and "control freak"
ideas. Just treat digital data the same way you would treat voice
data. It is NO different. It is simply information.
> ... Hank
------- Stewart - N0MHS --------
Wireless Entertainment/Communication Devices(WECs), Networks, and
ublic Radio Services Information(MURS,FRS,GMRS,ARS,CB):
http://www.pubcel.com
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 21:12:11 +0100
From: Bob Sayers <bob.sayers@zetnet.co.uk>
Subject: wireless PDA hacking
The message <8rnnb7$g4n$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
from O.C. <mortuus1952@my-deja.com> contains these words:
> (in Europe telecommunications are mostly government-owned,
> right?)
Not any longer ...
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 09:48:41 GMT
From: hamish@cloud.net.au (Hamish Moffatt VK3SB)
Subject: wireless PDA hacking
In rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc horseshoestew@my-deja.com wrote:
> Hoffa misspoke - we have a National DEBT of 5 Trillion - and have
> crushing interest payments. This year, we are running a small budget
> surplus - but our politicians are trying to figure out ways to spend it.
Well, that's better than here in Australia, where we have a large
surplus and our government refuses to spend it, despite the fact
that our petrol prices are out of control and most of that goes
in federal government taxes.
Hamish
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Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <hamish@debian.org> <hamish@cloud.net.au>
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 09:59:11 GMT
From: nomail@rob.knoware.nl (Rob Janssen)
Subject: wireless PDA hacking
Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <hamish@cloud.net.au> wrote:
>In rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc horseshoestew@my-deja.com wrote:
>> Hoffa misspoke - we have a National DEBT of 5 Trillion - and have
>> crushing interest payments. This year, we are running a small budget
>> surplus - but our politicians are trying to figure out ways to spend it.
>Well, that's better than here in Australia, where we have a large
>surplus and our government refuses to spend it, despite the fact
>that our petrol prices are out of control and most of that goes
>in federal government taxes.
It is the same here... the surplus is used to pay back the national debt,
and the tax on petrol is built up in a very creative way: when the oil
prices drop, the government complains how the tax income drops because the
tax is a percentage, and they add a "temporary" fixed tax amount.
When the oil prices rise, they have completely forgotten about the
"temporary" fixed amount and let the percentage part do the job. We
already know what is going to happen when prices drop again...
Rob
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