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no monthly fee, as the units only communicate with each other. If you have
two you can connect one to your internet PC and use it as a gateway so you
can run email and ICQ from another portable unit.
<horseshoestew@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:8rfp7j$8ld$1@nnrp1.deja.com...
> In article <8rd81l$87r$1@news.wrc.xerox.com>,
> "clonemaster" <clonemaster@netzero.net> wrote:
> > there's a new PDA/gameboy/wireless gadget called the cybiko. It does
> > wireless digital communication. It's designed for kids, but they will
> be
> > releasing the software development kit and RF specs so we can write
> our own
> > wireless software. www.cybiko.com
> > if you use my secret code AD9211 you can get 20% off the $129 price.
>
> Hmmm... How much does the monthly service cost? What frequencies does
> it operate on?
>
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Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 00:01:47 GMT
From: horseshoestew@my-deja.com
Subject: wireless PDA hacking
In article <I8PC5.14844$s76.1025200@bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
"Hank Oredson" <horedson@att.net> wrote:
>
> <horseshoestew@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> news:8rfr38$adu$1@nnrp1.deja.com...
>
> <misc deletia here and there>
>
> > 900MHz device! Seems to run at 19200bps. I just found out that
this
> > kind of thing apparently is very popular in Japan. I had this kind
of
> > idea about two months ago, and have started a company(PubCel), and
have
> > been working on apps.
>
> So you have a pecuniary interest in this stuff.
>
> > I'm working on 9600bps applications on MURS VHF frequencies. The
> > communications range should be MUCH higher on VHF. With 900Mhz UHF,
> > you are very limited. Also, you can't do anything with the antenna
to
> > increase range. With MURS, we should be able to.
>
> We would never have guessed!
>
> > And a nice Bronx cheer to all you old PBBS nincompoops who didn't
see
> > this coming. Try loosening up the old sphincters a little bit, and
> > quit threating to "report" anyone doing Internet-backbone
applications
> > on ham freqs.
>
> You operate illegally, and you WILL be turned in.
> It's that simple.
I'm doing it right now - call the FCC. If you keep bothering them with
non-issues, they'll probably pull YOUR ticket for being such a pest.
As long as you aren't conducting business over the Amateur frequencies,
and are using the channel for personal communications - it is legal.
Quit spreading false rumors - you aren't "God" anymore.
------- Stewart - N0MHS --------
Wireless Entertainment/Communication Devices(WECs), Networks, and
ublic Radio Services Information(MURS,FRS,GMRS,ARS,CB):
http://www.pubcel.com
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 00:50:50 GMT
From: horseshoestew@my-deja.com
Subject: wireless PDA hacking
In article <8rg19t$rp5$1@news.wrc.xerox.com>,
"clonemaster" <clonemaster@netzero.net> wrote:
> no monthly fee, as the units only communicate with each other. If you
have
> two you can connect one to your internet PC and use it as a gateway
so you
> can run email and ICQ from another portable unit.
I checked out their site thoroughly. The problem is the range(or lack
of it). I've thought about getting a couple for my kids, and so I can
get ideas - but the range looks so sickly that it reminds me of those
old pre-FRS 49Mhz "walkie-talkies" that you couldn't talk to with
anyone 100 yards away outside, or in the next room! This kind of thing
could make it harder to sell more capable wireless PDAs in the future,
if people get the idea that the technology is bunk. This was an
initial problem with FRS(and still may be a problem to this day), as
people were hesitant to get "ripped off" with cheap walkie-
talkies "once again". To be honest with you - FRS range STILL sucks -
but 1 mile is much better than 100yards.
You talked about development - at the site it just says "coming soon".
This just amounts to marketing hype at this point. I've been working
on Palm PDA apps, got sick-and-tired of the GCC runaround, and now I'm
running CodeWarrior. At least this is a "real" development
environment, and not vaporware.
------- Stewart - N0MHS --------
Wireless Entertainment/Communication Devices(WECs), Networks, and
ublic Radio Services Information(MURS,FRS,GMRS,ARS,CB):
http://www.pubcel.com
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 20:41:30 -0500
From: "J. Hoffa" <J.Hoffa@underground.net>
Subject: wireless PDA hacking
<horseshoestew@my-deja.com> wrote
> I need to take my company public.
No.
You need venture capital. To get that, you need a physical
business plan. The vc guys will take you public when they
are sure they will make a killing, and not one minute before.
Until then, you will have ample capital to both hire engineers
and ramp-up a production base. This means a post-prototype
device void of any patent infringement. They will usually
hire a patent lawyer to check the fees, and finish out the
business plan.
You need to find an economically depressed area to build
the factory, as the city will be eligible for federal funds,
and you will get zero property taxes for about 8 years.
Another good idea is to hire a full-blooded Indian woman
to be the President, or at least an Hispanic woman, and
this will be the only way to get a small-business loan.
Indian women, make excellent executives and will be
one of your best investments for the company.
Jimmy
P.S. You will normally have less than 51% ownership by
the time you have all the capital you need.
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