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> using phone modems on HF for RTTY, AMTOR, etc. I have not been able to
> find any information on the subject, and was hoping someone else had
> heard of this and could point me in the right direction. I have a
> couple of Hayes 2400 modems that can be set for the old Bell 300 / 1200
> baud modes, and am in the mood to experiment :) Thanks!
>
> 73 de Jeff KM5KH
>
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> KM5KH Tulsa Oklahoma
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 20:43:04 GMT
From: LMalmeida@mail.pt
Subject: radio link between 2 PCs
Hello to all.
I would like to do a link between 2 PCs that are about 10 km apart.
Wiring is out of question (to expensive). Now they are connect by a
dialup connection (it only needs about 1h every day and the call is
local). The connection doesn't need a lot of bandwith, but 9600bps is
the minimum. A 50kbps would be great. I was thinking in something like
a radio modem, preferably all in one box, no radio to buy apart. I had
seen references to part 15 devices, what are those things (to someone
that is in Portugal, that doesn't tell a lot), are the same thing that
IEEE 802.11? And are capable of going all the 10 km (with some hills
between).
References to hardware manufacturers would be nice, schemes of how to do
would be great. The software of the terminals can be linux, dos or
windows. TCP/IP is a must.
To say that the connection is only suitable if it's in the US$100-150
cost by point of the network (or the phone connections are still the
best way to do it).
I seen that sometimes the answers in this ng became someting like flame
wars, but remember that if you say RTFM, a location of the FM is a must.
(BTW, is there a faq for the ng? the one I found was dated 22 Oct 93)
thanks
Luciano Almeida
PS. If you are seeing this message twice is because I posted twice. I
couldn't see it outside my news server
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 21:32:42 GMT
From: marsgal42@hotmail.com
Subject: radio link between 2 PCs
In article <8r0agm$mp3$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
LMalmeida@mail.pt wrote:
> Hello to all.
> I would like to do a link between 2 PCs that are about 10 km apart.
> Wiring is out of question (to expensive). Now they are connect by a
> dialup connection (it only needs about 1h every day and the call is
> local)...
The reason for the flame wars is that this newsgroup is about
amateur radio computer networking - not cheap substitutes for
leased lines or other facilities that cost money.
For your information, a Part 15 device is a low-powered radio
device that is not subject to licensing. Each country has
a similar description.
Part 15 radios still wouldn't do what you need to do.
Laura Halliday VE7LDH "Que les nuages soient notre
Grid: CN89mg pied a terre..." - Hospital/shafte
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 08:23:31 +0100
From: "Luciano Almeida" <lmalmeida@remove-me.netc.pt>
Subject: radio link between 2 PCs
Hello.
A pointer to some group that talks about those cheap substitutes would be
nice. So far by what i'd seen this is the ng that talks about digital
comunications by radio (that's what i need, microwaves need line of sigth,
that is something that i don't have)
Luciano Almeida
> The reason for the flame wars is that this newsgroup is about
> amateur radio computer networking - not cheap substitutes for
> leased lines or other facilities that cost money.
>
> For your information, a Part 15 device is a low-powered radio
> device that is not subject to licensing. Each country has
> a similar description.
>
> Part 15 radios still wouldn't do what you need to do.
>
> Laura Halliday VE7LDH "Que les nuages soient notre
> Grid: CN89mg pied a terre..." - Hospital/shafte
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 09:28:46 GMT
From: nomail@rob.knoware.nl (Rob Janssen)
Subject: radio link between 2 PCs
Luciano Almeida <lmalmeida@remove-me.netc.pt> wrote:
>Hello.
>A pointer to some group that talks about those cheap substitutes would be
>nice. So far by what i'd seen this is the ng that talks about digital
>comunications by radio (that's what i need, microwaves need line of sigth,
>that is something that i don't have)
>Luciano Almeida
Apparently you don't know what "amateur radio" is. It isn't the use of
radio for purposes of any type of communication that would be more
expensive when using commercial providers. It is the use of radio by
people who want to experiment with electronics, propagation, etc. As
a hobby, where the communication is a by-product, not the goal.
So no matter if we have the right solution for you in the amateur radio
domain (which we really don't, but that is another matter), it would not be
usable for you as you would not be able to operate them within the
restrictions of amateur radio.
For cheap solutions, go to your computershop around the corner.
But I think they won't have anything as cheap as you want.
Rob
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 00:58:33 GMT
From: "Tim Shephard" <timshephard@earthlink.net>
Subject: WinAPRS and Precision Map
I am trying to follow the directions for installing Precision Mapping on
WinAPRS.
The first step says to unzip PMAP_OCX.zip. I cannot locate this file in the
winaprs directory or on the PM CD.
Where do you get this file?
Thanks
--
-Tim
tim.shephard@bigfoot.com
tims.phone@bigfoot.com
http://www.bigfoot.com/~tim.shephard/tim/ha
eFax (508) 590-0302
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 01:34:43 GMT
From: "Tim Shephard" <timshephard@earthlink.net>
Subject: WinAPRS and Precision Map
Nevermind.... I found it ;-)
http://web.infoave.net/~N4WYK/windows.htm
"Tim Shephard" <timshephard@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:ZORA5.389$4Q5.17386@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
> I am trying to follow the directions for installing Precision Mapping on
> WinAPRS.
>
> The first step says to unzip PMAP_OCX.zip. I cannot locate this file in
the
> winaprs directory or on the PM CD.
>
> Where do you get this file?
>
> Thanks
> --
> -Tim
> tim.shephard@bigfoot.com
> tims.phone@bigfoot.com
> http://www.bigfoot.com/~tim.shephard/tim/ha
> eFax (508) 590-0302
>
>
>
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