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Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 22:58:36 GMT
From: Tom Currie <Tom.Currie@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: (none)
Lee Higginbotham wrote:
>
> ____________
> Attention!! This is not a scam, this is the real deal--
It's not a scam... Just a felony.
So... You don't think this is illegal huh?
By the way here's what the US postal inspector's office says about it.
A chain letter is a "get rich quick" scheme that promises that your mail
box will soon be stuffed full of cash if you decide to participate.
You're told you can make thousands of dollars every month if you follow
the detailed instructions in the letter.
A typical chain letter includes names and addresses of several
individuals whom you may or may not know. You are instructed to send a
certain amount of money--usually $5--to the person at the top of the
list, and then eliminate that name and add yours to the bottom. You are
then instructed to mail copies of the letter to a few more individuals
who will hopefully repeat the entire process. The letter promises that
if they follow the same procedure, your name will gradually move to the
top of the list and you'll receive money -- lots of it.
There's at least one problem with chain letters. They're illegal if they
request money or other items of value and promise a substantial return
to the participants. Chain letters are a form of gambling, and sending
them through the mail (or delivering them in person or by computer, but
mailing money to participate) violates Title 18, United States Code,
Section 1302, the Postal Lottery Statute. (Chain letters that ask for
items of minor value, like picture postcards or recipes, may be mailed,
since such items are not things of value within the meaning of the law.)
Recently, high-tech chain letters have begun surfacing. They may be
disseminated over the Internet, or may require the copying and mailing
of computer disks rather than paper. Regardless of what technology is
used to advance the scheme, if the mail is used at any step along the
way, it is still illegal.
The main thing to remember is that a chain letter is simply a bad
investment. You certainly won't get rich. You will receive little or no
money. The few dollars you may get will probably not be as much as you
spend making and mailing copies of the chain letter.
Chain letters don't work because the promise that all participants in a
chain letter will be winners is mathematically impossible. Also, many
people participate, but do not send money to the person at the top of
the list. Some others create a chain letter that lists their name
numerous times -- in various forms with different addressee. So, in
reality, all the money in a chain is going to one person.
Do not be fooled if the chain letter is used to sell inexpensive reports
on credit, mail order sales, mailing lists, or other topics. The primary
purpose is to take your money, not to sell information. "Selling" a
product does not ensure legality. Be doubly suspicious if there's a
claim that the U.S. Postal Service or U.S. Postal Inspection Service has
declared the letter legal. This is said only to mislead you. Neither the
Postal Service nor Postal Inspectors give prior approval to any chain
letter.
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Date: 25 Sep 2000 11:37:13 GMT
From: XXXXrlubash@poco.mv.com (Richard Lubash)
Subject: APRS Operating Question
If I have a packet transceiver operating at my home qth receiving and
transmitting APRS information am I then allowed to leave that device
operating unattended and activate and operate a mobile APRS rig away
from my house. I know I can operate more than one rig when I am present
but am curious about the legality of operating from my car while my
base station continues to archive APRS info.
Any help would be appreciated.
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Richard Lubash
N1VXW
email XXXXrlubash@poco.mv.com
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ATTENTION: To stop that pesky junk mail I have
put the prefix (XXXX) at the front of my email address. To reply
remove (XXXX)
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Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 06:53:55 -0500
From: "Charles Brabham" <n5pvl@swb.net>
Subject: APRS Operating Question
"Richard Lubash" <XXXXrlubash@poco.mv.com.> wrote in message
news:8qndd9$fhl$1@pyrite.mv.net...
> If I have a packet transceiver operating at my home qth receiving and
> transmitting APRS information am I then allowed to leave that device
> operating unattended and activate and operate a mobile APRS rig away
> from my house. I know I can operate more than one rig when I am present
> but am curious about the legality of operating from my car while my
> base station continues to archive APRS info.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
It seems like a moot point to me... You already know your home qth's
location, which is highly unlikely to change. What point is there in
transmitting APRS data on a known, fixed location?
Maybe there's a real need there, that I'm having trouble seeing. If there
is, don't worry about it. Lots of unattended VHF/UHF Packet stations
transmit, and I've never heard of anyone getting into a crack over it.
--
73 DE Charles Brabham, N5PVL
n5pvl@swbell.net
http://home.swbell.net/n5pvl/
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Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 07:40:53 -0500
From: "Steve Sampson \(K5OKC\)" <ssampson@nospam.radio-link.net>
Subject: APRS Operating Question
A good readable version of the rules is at:
http://www.arrl.org/field/regulations/news/part97/
97.221: (b) A station may be automatically controlled
while transmitting a RTTY or data emission on the 6 m
or shorter wavelength bands, and on the
28.120-28.189 MHz, 24.925-24.930 MHz, 21.090-21.100 MHz,
18.105-18.110 MHz, 14.0950-14.0995 MHz,
14.1005-14.112 MHz, 10.140-10.150 MHz, 7.100-7.105 MHz,
or 3.620-3.635 MHz segments.
Charles, APRS stations not only transmit their position, but
also digipeat positions and messages of others. It only took
me a second to look up the rule. Amateurs should not guess
about something which will cause them to be fined or evicted
from the bands, therefore your reply seems to advise him to
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