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Date: Sun, 10 Sep 00 22:35:28 MET
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> radio.
If it only uses Ham Radio, throughout.
>
> It might be an Autopatch, an Internet, or a Part-15 Spread Spectrum
> LAN, or even another radio link; but, the Ham radio at each end makes
> it all Ham radio.
Gee! That's amazing how the telephone magically becomes an "amateur Radio"
station if you hook up a Ham Radio to one end or another of the telephone
link... I bet that works for signal flags too, huh? Can't wait to hook up a
10 ft. link between my handy-talkie and my telephone so I can "dial up" my
dxcc!
> Anyone who says different is a filthy bastard.
Yes, I can see how you have applied flawless logic to your alleged
"thinking" on this matter. A proud day for amateur telephone!
--
73 DE Charles Brabham, N5PVL
n5pvl@swbell.net
http://home.swbell.net/n5pvl/
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Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 21:55:38 GMT
From: "Hank Oredson" <horedson@att.net>
Subject: internet repeater linking
"J. Hoffa" <J.Hoffa@underground.net> wrote in message
news:srl0cgo1ct675@corp.supernews.com...
> "Rob Janssen" <nomail@rob.knoware.nl> wrote
> > ian <g3zhi@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >why not link your repeater to the internet
> >
> > Because that isn't amateur radio.
>
> Bullshit!
>
> Ham radio is whatever you want to experiment with, that involves a
> radio.
Exactly the point.
> It might be an Autopatch, an Internet, or a Part-15 Spread Spectrum
> LAN, or even another radio link; but, the Ham radio at each end makes
> it all Ham radio.
It's magic folks!
Hook a radio to your telephone line, and et viola the entire world
telephone system becomes ham radio!
> Anyone who says different is a filthy bastard.
Did I hear the whine of the lazy Land Line Lid?
--
... Hank
http://horedson.home.att.net
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Date: 09 Sep 2000 23:34:48 GMT
From: n8blk@aol.com (Art Clemons)
Subject: internet repeater linking
In article <%5wu5.263$5g7.45559@nnrp1.sbc.net>, "Charles Brabham"
<n5pvl@swb.net> writes:
>Gee! That's amazing how the telephone magically becomes an "amateur Radio"
>station if you hook up a Ham Radio to one end or another of the telephone
>link... I bet that works for signal flags too, huh? Can't wait to hook up a
>10 ft. link between my handy-talkie and my telephone so I can "dial up" my
>dxcc!
>
What is the difference between using a telephone with touchtones to control an
amateur station and what you're claiming? You seem to have this irrational
fear of using the internet despite posting usenet groups which require the
internet for distribution. Further, it's irrelevant to me how a signal is
propagated if the means of propagation don't have a non amateur acting as
control operator, so whether a signal goes through the internet, the
ionosphere, or 3700 amateur UHF auxiliary stations is just of technical
interest to me. Quite frankly, unless amateurs begin experimenting with
things
and finding new usages, amateur radio won't be around for long. What new
usages have you got to play with that will attract 11 year olds? what new
usages that will attract lots of technically inclined 60 year olds for that
matter. Unless amateurs use amateur radio and find things to attract
newcomers, it will die if just because there are no replacements for those who
leave or die.
-art clemons-
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Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 19:21:33 -0500
From: "J. Hoffa" <J.Hoffa@underground.net>
Subject: internet repeater linking
Filthy Bastard "Hank Oredson" <horedson@att.net> wrote
>
> Hook a radio to your telephone line, and et viola the entire world
> telephone system becomes ham radio!
Interesting way of thinking. So if you have a radio, and plug it into
something, then that something becomes Ham radio? That whatever
you interface the radio with is really the defining object. Why would
the telephone system become Ham radio?
If you plugged an answering machine into the telephone system, would
the telephone system become an answering machine system?
Jimmy
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Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 19:25:50 -0500
From: "J. Hoffa" <J.Hoffa@underground.net>
Subject: internet repeater linking
Filthy Bastard "Charles Brabham" <n5pvl@swb.net> wrote
>
> Gee! That's amazing how the telephone magically becomes an "amateur Radio"
> station if you hook up a Ham Radio to one end or another of the telephone
> link...
You are obviously demented. Please take your medicine.
Jimmy
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Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 04:26:02 GMT
From: "Hank Oredson" <horedson@att.net>
Subject: internet repeater linking
"Art Clemons" <n8blk@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20000909193448.29414.00001020@nso-cn.aol.com...
> In article <%5wu5.263$5g7.45559@nnrp1.sbc.net>, "Charles Brabham"
> <n5pvl@swb.net> writes:
>
> >Gee! That's amazing how the telephone magically becomes an "amateur Radio"
> >station if you hook up a Ham Radio to one end or another of the telephone
> >link... I bet that works for signal flags too, huh? Can't wait to hook up a
> >10 ft. link between my handy-talkie and my telephone so I can "dial up" my
> >dxcc!
> >
>
> What is the difference between using a telephone with touchtones to control
an
> amateur station and what you're claiming? You seem to have this irrational
> fear of using the internet despite posting usenet groups which require the
> internet for distribution. Further, it's irrelevant to me how a signal is
> propagated if the means of propagation don't have a non amateur acting as
> control operator, so whether a signal goes through the internet, the
> ionosphere, or 3700 amateur UHF auxiliary stations is just of technical
> interest to me. Quite frankly, unless amateurs begin experimenting with
things
> and finding new usages, amateur radio won't be around for long. What new
> usages have you got to play with that will attract 11 year olds? what new
> usages that will attract lots of technically inclined 60 year olds for that
> matter. Unless amateurs use amateur radio and find things to attract
> newcomers, it will die if just because there are no replacements for those
who
> leave or die.
> -art clemons-
Well Art, what you suggest is kinda silly isn't it?
The hobby is about radios, not telephones.
What you propose is that hams use "new things" and avoid using
those "old things" like radios, antennas, feedlines, etc.
You have any clue how silly that sounds?
--
... Hank
http://horedson.home.att.net
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Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 23:51:00 -0500
From: "J. Hoffa" <J.Hoffa@underground.net>
Subject: internet repeater linking
Filthy Bastard "Hank Oredson" <horedson@att.net> wrote
>
> Well Art, what you suggest is kinda silly isn't it?
Not since 1967.
> The hobby is about radios, not telephones.
Where does it say that? Never heard of such an entry in all of
the CFR.
> What you propose is that hams use "new things" and avoid using
> those "old things" like radios, antennas, feedlines, etc.
You're full of shit.
> You have any clue how silly that sounds?
Ditto.
Jimmy
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Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 00:59:59 -0500
From: "J. Hoffa" <J.Hoffa@underground.net>
Subject: internet repeater linking
"Hank Oredson" <horedson@att.net> wrote
>
> > > The hobby is about radios, not telephones.
> >
> > Where does it say that? Never heard of such an entry in all of
> > the CFR.
>
> PART 97--AMATEUR RADIO SERVICE
> Subpart A--General Provisions
> S 97.3 Definitions.
> (a) The definitions of terms used in Part 97 are:
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