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> important because they do provide barriers against commercial use of
> amateur frequencies.  However, I do believe it is possible to rework
> those regulations such that we would be allowed to carry Internet
> traffic but not as a commercial entity.

We could ask the FCC to extend the (now limited) common carrier
protection to cover this situation.

> ---eric


--

   ...  Hank

http://horedson.home.att.net

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Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 10:53:25 -0500
From: "J. Hoffa" <J.Hoffa@underground.net>
Subject: MURS potential

"Eric S. Johansson" wrote

> despite the corporate PR, in many communities there is no Internet
> access other than via modem.  This is particularly true in rural and
> 2nd/third tier cities.

Not only that, the wired infrastructure is falling apart.  Most of the
copper was layed down in the 30's, and has been spliced 100 times
since.

There are two towns now, that are completely wireless.  Every home
gets a cell-phone rather than a copper phone.  It's just easier.

With enough investors, any group can purchase a tested and proven
wireless system and deploy it.  This stuff is already available.  You
have to run a fiber trunk into the town, and set up nodes on roofs, but
when it's all done, the whole town is wireless.

A recent article in a trade publication, showed where a county Data
Systems manager in Los Alamos area needed to link all his fire
departments.  He sent out for bids, and all the wireline bids were not
competitive with the wireless bids.  He selected a wireless solution.
Then they had a big forest fire, and the towns phone system went dead.
They had to shut it down to save it.  Meanwhile his fire department
communications is working fine.  It was also expandable.  When the
police found out about this, they strung up a few more links, and they
could coordinate agency-wide again.  Big disaster, excellent foresight.

> developing, applying, and running higher-speed wireless Internet
> services in the community would be welcome by significant portion of
> the population.

Right now there is more money than solutions.  Wireless is hot, and
anyone who knows what dB means, or how to decode a spectrum
analyzer should net 200k a year.  This stuff is marked up so bad, even
Texaco is jealous.

> It could advance technical knowledge in the hobby.

Ham radio is about playing, and will remain a low bit rate service.

> It would be good PR.

Hams are basically invisable.  There are no Ads in the phone book, no
Ads in the newspaper society page, and no amount of other PR is going
to attract minorities.  It will always be a white man thing, because anyone
else gives up after being associated with other Hams for any length of time.

> It would attract technical people into the hobby.

The FCC is allocating plenty of new services that attract technical people,
and earns those technicians/engineers/scientists a living.
 
> It would go a long way to changing the image of amateur radio
> from a bunch of overweight, aging, white men with ugly towers in the
> backyard playing with low-tech radios to something a little more
> modern.

Hey now, your talking about the man who screwed your mom to get you
where you are today.

> unfortunately, we can't do this now because we are limited by the
> content prohibitions in our regulations.  those restrictions are
> important because they do provide barriers against commercial use of
> amateur frequencies.  However, I do believe it is possible to rework
> those regulations such that we would be allowed to carry Internet
> traffic but not as a commercial entity.

Since Steve Forbes was run out, and both candidates are touting the
advantages of their loop-holes in which to get elected, the result of
allowing non-hobby emissions by Ham radio, would be higher Federal
taxes.

Jimmy

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Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 21:39:00 +0100
From: Hans & Colleen Brakob <hhbrakob@pop.mpls.uswest.net>
Subject: MURS potential

Eric wrote:

> providing a community high-speed Internet access by 
> amateur radio could be considered public service and 
> justification for spectrum.

No, it would be considered competition to commercial 
services licensed to provide such access.

See 97.113(a)(5).  If anything, it would justify taking
spectrum away from us!

73, Hans, K0HB

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Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 10:24:31 -0400
From: Gary Coffman <ke4zv@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Service Manual Icom IC-211

On Wed, 30 Aug 2000 03:55:47 GMT, Chuck <sulch@gte.net> wrote:
>Hello, I am in need of a factory service manual, or a copy thereof; I
>have a 211 that is from 2.5KHz to as high as 19KHz higher than
>displayed frequency both TX and RX. When first powered up it is right
>on frequency then drifts the amount previously mentioned; however,
>once warmed up the drift stops and the unit is stable from there on.

There is no separate service manual for the IC-211. The owner's manual 
is it. Fortunately, it does have the schematics and theory of operation in
it, unlike the current crop of Icom owner's manuals which don't even include
a schematic.

The problem you describe sounds like a bad trimmer capacitor across
the reference oscillator crystal. Some Icom radios used plastic body
trimmers which became subject to drift with age. Replacing the trimmer
with a ceramic body equivalent may fix your problem.

Gary
Gary Coffman KE4ZV  | You make it  |mail to ke4zv@bellsouth.net
534 Shannon Way     | We break it  |
Lawrenceville, GA   | Guaranteed   |

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