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Date: Wed, 06 Sep 00 20:35:26 MET
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From: pa2aga@pe1mvx.ampr.org
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take the RF frequency minus 1000 Hz and set that as your dial reading.
This avoids the confusion when two stations are using different tone
frequencies (or sidebands) and therefore have different dial readings.
Everybody calculates their own personal dial setting depending upon
how they are operating their equipment.
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Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 01:43:34 GMT
From: "Michel Morin" <morinm@csdgs.qc.ca>
Subject: Help wanted on understanding modulation theory.
Hi guys
Thanks a lot those of you who responded to my call, it sure helps. Have
a good week.
73 de VE2CJW
Michel Morin.
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Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 13:04:17 -0000
From: "Vilhjalmur Sigurjonsson" <vilhj@idunn.is>
Subject: MFSK Info?
www.qsl.net/zl1bpu/mfsk is your place to look,
73 es cul, de TF3VS
>Looking for links to sites with information on PSK63 and MFSK. Searches
>seem to come up with no hits... help anyone..?
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Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 10:54:46 -0500
From: "J. Hoffa" <J.Hoffa@underground.net>
Subject: MFSK Info?
That stuff makes my cat meow. Sounds terrible :-)
"Vilhjalmur Sigurjonsson" wrote
> www.qsl.net/zl1bpu/mfsk is your place to look,
> 73 es cul, de TF3VS
>
>
> >Looking for links to sites with information on PSK63 and MFSK. Searches
> >seem to come up with no hits... help anyone..?
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Date: 04 Sep 2000 07:35:08 -0400
From: esj@harvee.billerica.ma.us (Eric S. Johansson)
Subject: MURS potential
Hans & Colleen Brakob <hhbrakob@pop.mpls.uswest.net> writes:
> Horshitstew said:
>
> > Because they wouldn't be hamstrung by the Amateur
> > limiations on performing business, or freely
> > accessing the Internet. Those are HUGE
> > advantages.
>
> Classic non-sequiur.
>
> Advantages to whom? I don't know of any amateurs
> who want to perform business on the air, and
> since we all have nonrestricted access to the
> internet by other means, why would any technically
> aware person want to access it via amateur radio?
providing a community high-speed Internet access by amateur
radio could be considered public service and justification for
spectrum.
despite the corporate PR, in many communities there is no Internet
access other than via modem. This is particularly true in rural and
2nd/third tier cities.
developing, applying, and running higher-speed wireless Internet
services in the community would be welcome by significant portion of
the population. It could advance technical knowledge in the hobby. It
would be good PR. It would attract technical people into the
hobby. It would go a long way to changing the image of amateur radio
from a bunch of overweight, aging, white men with ugly towers in the
backyard playing with low-tech radios to something a little more
modern.
unfortunately, we can't do this now because we are limited by the
content prohibitions in our regulations. those restrictions are
important because they do provide barriers against commercial use of
amateur frequencies. However, I do believe it is possible to rework
those regulations such that we would be allowed to carry Internet
traffic but not as a commercial entity.
---eric
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Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 14:41:37 GMT
From: "Hank Oredson" <horedson@att.net>
Subject: MURS potential
"Eric S. Johansson" <esj@harvee.billerica.ma.us> wrote in message
news:un1hoie4z.fsf@harvee.billerica.ma.us...
> Hans & Colleen Brakob <hhbrakob@pop.mpls.uswest.net> writes:
>
> > Horshitstew said:
> >
> > > Because they wouldn't be hamstrung by the Amateur
> > > limiations on performing business, or freely
> > > accessing the Internet. Those are HUGE
> > > advantages.
> >
> > Classic non-sequiur.
> >
> > Advantages to whom? I don't know of any amateurs
> > who want to perform business on the air, and
> > since we all have nonrestricted access to the
> > internet by other means, why would any technically
> > aware person want to access it via amateur radio?
>
> providing a community high-speed Internet access by amateur
> radio could be considered public service and justification for
> spectrum.
I'm a little confused how this might work. I assume by "high-speed"
you mean faster than modem access, i.e. cable or xDSL speeds?
> despite the corporate PR, in many communities there is no Internet
> access other than via modem. This is particularly true in rural and
> 2nd/third tier cities.
How would the ham radio system access the internet, other than
via modem?
> developing, applying, and running higher-speed wireless Internet
> services in the community would be welcome by significant portion of
> the population. It could advance technical knowledge in the hobby. It
> would be good PR. It would attract technical people into the
> hobby. It would go a long way to changing the image of amateur radio
> from a bunch of overweight, aging, white men with ugly towers in the
> backyard playing with low-tech radios to something a little more
> modern.
So you suggest higher speeds than are available via modem?
How would the hams get this higher speed access to the internet,
so they could share it in the community?
Try a simple example. 100 users in the community, online via
high speed ham radio links. Let's assume 256kbps for the ham radio
links, so they are at least a little faster than the modem dialups.
That's 25.6 Mbps total bandwidth required of the ham radio links.
However the ham radio system connects into the internet must
supply this bandwidth. How could that be done? Who would pay?
> unfortunately, we can't do this now because we are limited by the
> content prohibitions in our regulations. those restrictions are
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