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To : HDDIG@EU
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 00 23:36:18 MET
Message-Id: <hd_2000_241C>
From: pa2aga@pe1mvx.ampr.org
To: hd_broadcast@pa2aga.ampr.org
X-BBS-Msg-Type: B
> In article <DR_r5.14482$Q36.1058598@bgtnsc07-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> "Hank Oredson" <horedson@att.net> wrote:
> >
> > <horseshoestew@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> > news:8oot9g$6qs$1@nnrp1.deja.com...
> > > At first glance it would appear that the 2W ERP limit for MURS
> > > is "crippling".
> >
> > <troller cross-posts removed>
>
> <not a troll - and no it wasn't>
<troller cross-posts removed again>
> > Hey good buddy!
> > Stick an afterburner on it, and put up one of them big skysweeper
> things!
> > That will take care of the 2W ERP limit!
Trying to do something with radios that don't exist, licensed into
a service that does not yet exist, to avoid using Ham Radio ...
.. cross-posted to three groups ... it's a troll certainly.
> The cell phone networks don't seem to have a problem.
With what?
> You always seem to be critical of low-power, cell-based systems. I've
> always theorized that you live in a place that precludes your use of
> these kinds of systems.
Your theory is incorrect.
We have a cell-based packet radio network
here, with overlaid small / medium / large cell sizes.
You used to have such a thing in Southern California.
Isn't it there anymore?
> > ... Hank
>
> ------- Stewart - N0MHS --------
--
... Hank
http://horedson.home.att.net
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Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 18:41:14 GMT
From: K0HB <k0hb@my-deja.com>
Subject: MURS potential
In article <8otsf6$ecu$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
horseshoestew@my-deja.com wrote:
> You always seem to be critical of low-power, cell-based systems.
MURS is not a cell based system. It is a technologically simplistic
point-to-point channelized system, several technology-generations
inferior to amateur radio. I thought you were the fella hyping
what "technically aware" would do if you could just find a few 12-year-
olds to help you out.
73, Hans, K0HB
--
~~~
If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you;
but if you really make them think, they'll hate you.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 14:24:25 -0500
From: "J. Hoffa" <J.Hoffa@underground.net>
Subject: MURS potential
> You used to have such a thing in Southern California.
> Isn't it there anymore?
I was shocked when I recently went to LA! There is no Ham
activity at all! I finally picked a repeater and stated my call, and
waited for a response. It just morse code ID'd and that was it.
Hmm, try another one. "You probably don't know, but this is a
private repeater." OK, sorry, try another one. "Hey buddy, are
you new in town? Any idiot would know this repeater is private."
Oh, sorry, tried another 5 and got morse-code and voice ID's.
Got on 146.52 and stated my call. waited 5 minutes and stated it
again. "Hey mutha-fucka, stoopid shit, we don't want to rap
whiff none oh dat white trash fum back east."
Silence. Nothing else heard in a half-hour scan.
Hmm, must be a baseball game in town or something...
Time for the FCC to take all that wasted spectrum back to
"we the people..."
Jimmy
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Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 23:16:03 +0100
From: Hans & Colleen Brakob <hhbrakob@pop.mpls.uswest.net>
Subject: MURS potential
Horshitstew said:
> Because they wouldn't be hamstrung by the Amateur
> limiations on performing business, or freely
> accessing the Internet. Those are HUGE
> advantages.
Classic non-sequiur.
Advantages to whom? I don't know of any amateurs
who want to perform business on the air, and
since we all have nonrestricted access to the
internet by other means, why would any technically
aware person want to access it via amateur radio?
73, Hans, K0HB
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Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 00:29:03 GMT
From: "Scott W." <boogyboo@iluv.you>
Subject: MURS potential
In article <39B2CDA3.9E4321E7@pop.mpls.uswest.net>,
hhbrakob@pop.mpls.uswest.net
says...
> Classic non-sequiur.
>
> Advantages to whom? I don't know of any amateurs
> who want to perform business on the air,
We have them here in the Dallas area. They like to
use the repeaters for their free phone-patch and
I've even heard them dispatching plumbers to fix
toliets and washers and dryers.
--
"If I had a hammer, I'd trade it for a bottle of wodka." - Anatoly Jakhov
ehehehehehe
"Inevitable and steady deterioration
of a system or society."
What is: entropy ?
"I'll take "faster than a speeding
mullet" for $200."
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Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 21:39:16 -0400
From: Dave Hall <nojunk_n3cvj@worldlynx.net>
Subject: MURS potential
Hans & Colleen Brakob wrote:
>
> Horshitstew said:
>
> > Because they wouldn't be hamstrung by the Amateur
> > limiations on performing business, or freely
> > accessing the Internet. Those are HUGE
> > advantages.
>
> Classic non-sequiur.
>
> Advantages to whom? I don't know of any amateurs
> who want to perform business on the air, and
> since we all have nonrestricted access to the
> internet by other means, why would any technically
> aware person want to access it via amateur radio?
>
> 73, Hans, K0HB
Sounds to me like someone wanting to set up a wireless internet service
business using the MURS frequencies....
Dave
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Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 13:11:03 +0100
From: "Dave deSouza" <g3vfp@btinternet.com>
Subject: Software Updates PSK etc
Hi all.
You may or not be aware that I carry most current psk etc softwares on the
download page of my site, and the following software's have been updated.
Logger by Bob K4CY is now in version 7.09
Zakanaka is a special case as it is in Beta testing format, and now upto
Beta 16.
MixW32 by Nick UT2UZ is now in version 1.43 ( Registered, and Demo )
Apart from the Beta16, the above are on my download page.
http://www.btinternet.com/~g3vfp/download.html
Best Regards,
Dave G3VFP
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