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Date: Sun, 30 Jul 00 14:17:30 MET
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> > would have been better if I HAD had to pass a 10, 13, or even 15wpm
> > test in addition to the written exam(forget 20wpm!).
> >
> > If there hadn't have been such ruthless opposition to the lowering of
> > the requirements at some earlier date, to some reasonable numbers(say
> > 5/10/15 N/G/E), I doubt if we would have seen this "rubber-band" effect
> > of having 5wpm Extras.
> >
> > Oh well, now I can devote more time to my applications, like the towers
> > I'm building, and the high-speed wireless Internet gateways I want to
> > set up. I even decided to finally join the ARRL. I'll probably even
> > buy a new ARRL handbook(my 1994 version is getting a bit old).
Hey George!! Nice note. I got my General from the Dallas office in about
1967 on the second attempt (had to drive about 150 miles to do it). Yep
the days of solid copy, sending tests, etc. Hang in there, man!!
Best Wishes,
KAC
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Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 02:24:37 GMT
From: "Hank Oredson" <horedson@att.net>
Subject: It's kind of a shame...
<horseshoestew@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:8lsk7h$th5$1@nnrp1.deja.com...
> In article <u0gg5.1306$ZL5.67775@bgtnsc07-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> "Hank Oredson" <horedson@att.net> wrote:
> > You'll suck a few in with this troll.
> > Just one question: did someone FORCE you to NOT learn CW?
>
> Oh come on now, Hank. I actually do know CW to a reasonable extent
> (~10wpm).
>
> > ... Hank
>
> Stewart - N0MHS
"... reasonable extent ..." in my book is better than 25 wpm.
(That's a speed you would obtain by simply operating for a
few years ... it's no big deal)
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... Hank
http://horedson.home.att.net
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Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 02:28:35 GMT
From: "Hank Oredson" <horedson@att.net>
Subject: It's kind of a shame...
"Ed Hare, W1RFI" <w1rfi@arrl.net> wrote in message
news:%3mg5.200$a83.662975@news.ntplx.net...
> Dwight Stewart <stewartx@sccoast.net> wrote:
>
> > horseshoestew@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> > > Just passed my Extra examination, and I'm left with kind of a empty
> > > feeling. Even though I won't be using CW any time soon, I think it
> > > would have been better if I HAD had to pass a 10, 13, or even 15wpm
> > > test in addition to the written exam(forget 20wpm!).
>
> > Stewart, I'm going to take you at your word that you truly feel this
> > way. In my opinion, you're putting way too much emphasis on the test.
> > Its just an entrance test, not a measure of your skill or knowledge.
> > Its what you do after you pass the test, and get the license, that
> > really matters. Think about all the new possibilities, and privileges,
> > now available to you. Do something with those new privileges, and I'm
> > sure you'll feel a lot better.
>
> And if we take him at his word that he really does wish that he had passed a
> 10, 13 or 15 wpm test, he is certainly free to increase his code speed to 15
> wpm, or beyond, if he likes. I am sure we can look back later and see if he
> really meant what he said by seeing if he increases his code speed to 10, 13
> or 15 wpm.
<deletia>
> 73,
> Ed Hare, W1RFI
Ed, I think you are putting the bar way too low.
As a kid in high school, I found it easy to get to 25 wpm, and not all that
hard to get to 35 wpm. If ya wanna do it, ya spend the time and learn it.
Running liason between traffic nets will get that speed right up there ...
.. as will trying to win sweepstakes ...
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... Hank
http://horedson.home.att.net
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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 21:17:08 -0400
From: "Dean Craft" <w4ihk@mindspring.com>
Subject: It's kind of a shame...
Tom W8JI <2w8ji@contesting.com> wrote in message
<3981ca15.3235255@news.akorn.net>...
>
>
>>snip<<
>
>...or actually worse. In the United States, the
>number one priority is making all people equal...regardless or effort
>or ability.
>
>73 Tom
>
And as said so eloquently by Lily Tomlin, "....and thats the
truth!....phhhhhtttttt!"
Dean Craft -- W4IHK
w4ihk@mindspring.com
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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 22:14:09 GMT
From: "D. Stussy" <kd6lvw@bde-arc.ampr.org>
Subject: Morse Code over the Internet.
On Fri, 28 Jul 2000 horseshoestew@my-deja.com wrote:
> There is another ham who is interested in passing the 5wpm test, and it
> dawned on me that it would be more interesting to make actual contacts
> via Morse Code over the Internet, than only following a practice course.
>
> Due to the herky-jerky nature of TCP/IP, each sender's transmission
> would have to be buffered, but it should work pretty good. I would
> assume there would just be some small delay in the handshake(a few
> seconds at most - kind of what you get when you play a video over the
> Internet).
>
> I did a quick perusal of the available Morse Code programs out there,
> and couldn't come across anything that did this. Anyone out there know
> of anything like this?
>
> I suppose one who to accomplish this would be to use an on-line voice
> chat group, and just feed thru the audio tones. I haven't used these
> on-line voice chat groups - so I don't know how feasible this would be.
Scary thought! Use of such a high bandwidth medium for such a low bandwidth
communication (which due to it's rare transport over such medium isn't even
efficiently multiplexed).
It's more efficient to simply send the text, and have the remote machine
TRANSLATE it to morse code.
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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 21:45:44 GMT
From: horseshoestew@my-deja.com
Subject: Morse Code over the Internet.
There is another ham who is interested in passing the 5wpm test, and it
dawned on me that it would be more interesting to make actual contacts
via Morse Code over the Internet, than only following a practice course.
Due to the herky-jerky nature of TCP/IP, each sender's transmission
would have to be buffered, but it should work pretty good. I would
assume there would just be some small delay in the handshake(a few
seconds at most - kind of what you get when you play a video over the
Internet).
I did a quick perusal of the available Morse Code programs out there,
and couldn't come across anything that did this. Anyone out there know
of anything like this?
I suppose one who to accomplish this would be to use an on-line voice
chat group, and just feed thru the audio tones. I haven't used these
on-line voice chat groups - so I don't know how feasible this would be.
Stewart - N0MHS
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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 22:41:02 GMT
From: horseshoestew@my-deja.com
Subject: Morse Code over the Internet.
In article <Pine.LNX.4.10.10007282126390.2082-100000@exp.bde-
arc.ampr.org>,
kd6lvw@att.net wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Jul 2000 horseshoestew@my-deja.com wrote:
> > There is another ham who is interested in passing the 5wpm test,
and it
> > dawned on me that it would be more interesting to make actual
contacts
> > via Morse Code over the Internet, than only following a practice
course.
> >
> > Due to the herky-jerky nature of TCP/IP, each sender's transmission
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