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months I
> was running 35 wpm with *my* bug!
>
> Welcome!
>
> 72/73, George W5YR - the Yellow Rose of Texas
Thanks, George.
Stewart - N0MHS
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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 18:46:31 GMT
From: horseshoestew@my-deja.com
Subject: It's kind of a shame...
In article <so2rl9aqo0b159@corp.supernews.com>,
"Steve Sampson" <ssampson@usa-site.net> wrote:
> There's plenty of certificates out there to replace the one from
> the Federal Government.
>
> When you learn CW at 35 WPM, or even the POW tap code
> at 15 WPM, you will find a diploma with gold stars to be had.
35wpm?! My god! I'll be lucky to ever get to 15wpm on Morse - let
alone the POW tap code.
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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 16:28:25 -0400
From: "Ed Hare, W1RFI" <w1rfi@arrl.net>
Subject: It's kind of a shame...
Dwight Stewart <stewartx@sccoast.net> wrote:
> horseshoestew@my-deja.com wrote:
> > Just passed my Extra examination, and I'm left with kind of a empty
> > feeling. Even though I won't be using CW any time soon, I think it
> > would have been better if I HAD had to pass a 10, 13, or even 15wpm
> > test in addition to the written exam(forget 20wpm!).
> Stewart, I'm going to take you at your word that you truly feel this
> way. In my opinion, you're putting way too much emphasis on the test.
> Its just an entrance test, not a measure of your skill or knowledge.
> Its what you do after you pass the test, and get the license, that
> really matters. Think about all the new possibilities, and privileges,
> now available to you. Do something with those new privileges, and I'm
> sure you'll feel a lot better.
And if we take him at his word that he really does wish that he had passed a
10, 13 or 15 wpm test, he is certainly free to increase his code speed to 15
wpm, or beyond, if he likes. I am sure we can look back later and see if he
really meant what he said by seeing if he increases his code speed to 10, 13
or 15 wpm.
The bottom line is that most of us are not bound by the limitations that
existed in the tests we took to enter ham radio. The old timers, some of
whom took a test that I would judge to be harder than the ones I took, are
free to learn modern radio technology that was not found on the exams of
1932. The hams of my era are free to learn more than was on the 16-page
study guide we studied to get all amateur priveleges in 1963. Newer hams
are free to learn more than is found in the 1000-odd questions in the pools
and are free to learn anything that they feel should be on the tests.
I wish Stew well in what he chooses to do within amateur radio. He has
clearly indicated an interest in digital communicaitons, a real "development
opportunity" for ham radio. If, as he just stated, is also interested in CW
communications, I am sure he will succeed at that, too, and will find many a
willing Elmer to help bring him along.
73,
Ed Hare, W1RFI
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Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 09:41:57 +1000
From: "Cynicus" <cynicus@optusnet.com.au>
Subject: It's kind of a shame...
Hi all,
horseshoestew@my-deja.com> wrote in message...
>Just passed my Extra examination, and I'm left with kind of a empty
>feeling. Even though I won't be using CW any time soon, I think it
>would have been better if I HAD had to pass a 10, 13, or even 15wpm
>test in addition to the written exam(forget 20wpm!).
My feeling is that Amateur Radio and the CW mode would be better served by
eliminating the code exams entirely. Then those who actually want to learn
the code will do so of their own volition.
5, 10, 13 and perhaps even 15 wpm garrantees failure for majority of
candidates, along with unecessary frustration and anguish. The intial target
speed SHOULD be at least 18 wpm.
At 18 to 22 wpm the overwhelming majority of candidates will pass easily. No
fuss, no drama, no angst.
Challenge: Obtain a copy of David Nye's (KB9PSL) Freeware Morse Code
Trainer (abt 35 kB DOS) and start from scratch at 22 wpm. 3 to 4 weeks of
half an hour a day, seven days a week WILL have you copying 22 WPM.
It is that easy.
73, Cynicus.
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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 18:42:03 -0600
From: kenny@kacweb.com (Kenny A. Chaffin)
Subject: It's kind of a shame...
In article <l4t2osgr5u2ruovtivts3l4npb0hq8ojgf@4ax.com>,
kberrien@_NOSPAM_javanet.com says...
>
> >> Oh well, now I can devote more time to my applications, like the towers
> >> I'm building, and the high-speed wireless Internet gateways I want to
> >> set up. I even decided to finally join the ARRL. I'll probably even
> >> buy a new ARRL handbook(my 1994 version is getting a bit old).
> >
> >hey, mine's a 1985 and the last time I looked it wasn't that out of date
> ><grin>.
>
> Heheh.... how bout 1974, library discard for 10 cents I think. Serves
> me well, not to mention it has that great ole book smell!!
>
> Kevin
>
Cool!!
KAC
P.S. I don't think they've changed maxwell or ohm's laws even since then.
<grin>
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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 18:47:34 -0600
From: kenny@kacweb.com (Kenny A. Chaffin)
Subject: It's kind of a shame...
In article <3981B288.B8E21B82@att.net>, w5yr@att.net says...
> Stuart, I took the Extra exam in 1954. Had to copy 20 wpm for at least a
> minute solid copy and send enough to convince the FCC Examiner that I
> knew the code. Took the written, which at that time was composed of 50 of
> the most often missed questions on the commercial license exam elements.
> I passed all that and got one of the first 10 Extras issued in the Dallas
> district.
>
> So, I go into the FCC data base as "AE"
>
> Now, you took your code and written tests and passed them.
>
> You go into the FCC data base as "AE"
>
> What's the difference and who cares!
>
> Operate and have fun and use that extra theory study to learn even more
> for the enhanced enjoyment of the hobby. Nothing says that you cannot
> continue to practice and operate and build up your code speed.
>
> I started as a ham at age 16 on 20 meter CW back when newcomers were not
> cut very much slack. But, I got on there with all the big boys and their
> Vibroplexes with my little straight key and had a ball. In three months I
> was running 35 wpm with *my* bug!
>
> Welcome!
>
> 72/73, George W5YR - the Yellow Rose of Texas
> Fairview, TX 30 mi NE Dallas in Collin county QRP-L 1373
> Amateur Radio W5YR, in the 54th year and it just keeps getting better!
> R/C since 1964 - AMA 98452 RVing since 1972 Kachina #91900556
> (12/99)
>
>
>
> horseshoestew@my-deja.com wrote:
> >
> > Just passed my Extra examination, and I'm left with kind of a empty
> > feeling. Even though I won't be using CW any time soon, I think it
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