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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 00 22:10:55 MET
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> > You were not there, you have no clue what worked or didn't work.
> > Pay attention to those who WERE there and DID build and operate
> > such a network. On this particular topic, you are simply clueless.
Then someone who is not Steve said:
> But he isn't wrong, and I WAS there. What KILLED growth was the
<deletia>
> Stewart - N0MHS
You're not Steve.
No N0MHS in any of my old logs.
If you were "there" it sure wasn't under your current call.
What was your callsign in 1984-1985?
--
... Hank
http://horedson.home.att.net
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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 02:03:37 GMT
From: "Hank Oredson" <horedson@att.net>
Subject: Forget HF & CW - Think Digital
"Steve Sampson" <ssampson@usa-site.net> blathered in message
news:smsnck2und6116@corp.supernews.com...
> You assume too much Grandpa.
You assume things about my kids which are not true.
> have fun,
> Steve/k5okc
But I'm sure glad to hear that you found someone else
willing to play non-ham radio with Steve!
What I have on air is well-known in this group, to
anyone paying attention ... and it's all ham radio, not
some commercial stuff ...
--
... Hank
http://horedson.home.att.net
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Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 21:43:41 -0500
From: "Steve Sampson" <ssampson@usa-site.net>
Subject: Forget HF & CW - Think Digital
"Hank Oredson" wrote
>
> What I have on air is well-known in this group, to
> anyone paying attention ... and it's all ham radio, not
> some commercial stuff ...
I understand you have some low baud rate commercial TNC's??
Did you get rid of them and homebrew your own now Grandpa??
Do you use wires to hook up to the computer, or is it Ham radio
all the way to the keyboard, mouse, and monitor? USB hubs and
Serial ports aren't Ham radio either you know...
Steve/k5okc
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Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 21:54:55 -0500
From: "Steve Sampson" <ssampson@usa-site.net>
Subject: Forget HF & CW - Think Digital
"Hank Oredson" wrote
> > > Steve, why do you continually tell untruths?
> > > You were not there, you have no clue what worked or didn't work.
Sorry, I was. I joined packet in 1989 when it saturated out. In 1990
it started its plummet to extinction. I stopped using the BBS when we
couldn't get any messages forwarded from the war zone. We finally
went to MARS for voice and RTTY relay circuits. Thank God for
Non-Hams!
> > > On this particular topic, you are simply clueless.
Nope Grandpa, your brain is as shrivelled-up as your dick.
> No N0MHS in any of my old logs.
Oh boy, I'm rolling on the floor... stop! stop! my sides are hurting...
Only REAL Hams are in his logs, but he only tells you who isn't in
them, not who is. I know for a fact that his callsign and 15 SSID's
are the only thing in there... (he has a bunch of nodes that go around
in circles).
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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 04:24:58 GMT
From: "Hank Oredson" <horedson@att.net>
Subject: Forget HF & CW - Think Digital
"Steve Sampson" <ssampson@usa-site.net> wrote in message
news:smt0atunnd6184@corp.supernews.com...
> "Hank Oredson" wrote
>
> > > > Steve, why do you continually tell untruths?
> > > > You were not there, you have no clue what worked or didn't work.
>
> Sorry, I was. I joined packet in 1989 when it saturated out. In 1990
> it started its plummet to extinction. I stopped using the BBS when we
> couldn't get any messages forwarded from the war zone. We finally
> went to MARS for voice and RTTY relay circuits. Thank God for
> Non-Hams!
Like I said, you were not there.
We're talking 1983-1985 Steve, when things got going.
When you, and others like you, arrived in 1989-1990, everything started
going downhill fast. Perhaps there is a clue lurking in this observation.
> > > > On this particular topic, you are simply clueless.
>
> Nope Grandpa, your brain is as shrivelled-up as your dick.
I see you really have nothing to say.
> > No N0MHS in any of my old logs.
>
> Oh boy, I'm rolling on the floor... stop! stop! my sides are hurting...
>
> Only REAL Hams are in his logs, but he only tells you who isn't in
> them, not who is. I know for a fact that his callsign and 15 SSID's
> are the only thing in there... (he has a bunch of nodes that go around
> in circles).
The logs were published. If you were around, you would know this.
If you were around and had an interest in the network, you would
probably have a copy of those logs. Many people did. You probably
don't even know what I'm talking about ... although you would if
you had studied the network enough to learn it's history, a topic about
which you keep claiming expertise. I probably should mention that
SSIDs are not in the logs, for the obvious reason. But you knew that,
didn't you?
--
... Hank
http://horedson.home.att.net
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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 04:27:40 GMT
From: "Hank Oredson" <horedson@att.net>
Subject: Forget HF & CW - Think Digital
"Steve Sampson" <ssampson@usa-site.net> wrote in message
news:smsvlohpnd667@corp.supernews.com...
> "Hank Oredson" wrote
> >
> > What I have on air is well-known in this group, to
> > anyone paying attention ... and it's all ham radio, not
> > some commercial stuff ...
>
> I understand you have some low baud rate commercial TNC's??
Your understanding is, as usual, rather limited.
> Did you get rid of them and homebrew your own now Grandpa??
Likewise limited understanding Steve.
> Do you use wires to hook up to the computer, or is it Ham radio
> all the way to the keyboard, mouse, and monitor? USB hubs and
> Serial ports aren't Ham radio either you know...
>
> Steve/k5okc
Well Steve, I am able to understand the difference between amateur
radio and commecial radio. Some folks who post here seem unable
to comprehend that simple differentiation.
Smelt your own copper, do you?
--
... Hank
http://horedson.home.att.net
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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 10:59:17 +0300
From: Paul Keinanen <keinanen@sci.fi>
Subject: Forget HF & CW - Think Digital
On Thu, 13 Jul 2000 19:22:10 -0500, "Steve Sampson"
<ssampson@usa-site.net> wrote:
<8 km link>
>I think the maximum range at my antenna altitude is 12 km.
>1.6 Mbps at 500 mW.
Scaling down to NBFM bandwidths, this would be 1-2 mW levels at NBFM
bandwidths, so we are talking about line of sight paths, right ?
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