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Date: Sun, 02 Jul 00 14:23:09 MET
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when it comes to digital communications and CW!
Hamish, no personal offense meant, but you were just plain WRONG!
Comments, thoughts.
Best Regards,
Peter K1PO
The new method, combines "Hamish Moffatt VK3SB" <hamish@cloud.net.au> wrote
in message news:rvw75.399$I43.2390@news1.eburwd1.vic.optushome.com.au...
> Peter O. Brackett <ab4bc@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > All FEC systems make use of memory!
>
> FEC usually means encoding extra information into the transmission
> to correct possible errors (rather than to correct the errors after
> transmission). Again I ask, how have you used FEC with CW?
>
>
> 73
>
> Hamish
> --
> Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <hamish@debian.org> <hamish@cloud.net.au>
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Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2000 09:54:26 GMT
From: hamish@cloud.net.au (Hamish Moffatt VK3SB)
Subject: CW versus hi speed digital etc.
Peter O. Brackett <ab4bc@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> Of course you won't have heard it on the air in "plain language", but I can
> send you to several HF frequencies where you may copy on air CW FEC,
> generally in the format of "five letter code groups".
[...]
> As I stated further up the thread, mosr of you so-called "digital"
> communications "experts" who post on this NG, know not whereof you speak
> when it comes to digital communications and CW!
> Hamish, no personal offense meant, but you were just plain WRONG!
Interesting comments Peter. Obviously FEC is possible with any
modulation system, as in your five letter code groups example.
However, I was really referring to casual QSOs between amateur
operators using normal decoding methods ie their ears, brain and
perhaps a bit of paper, for real-time decoding. Which is how
CW is usually done by amateur operators.
I don't pretend to be an expert on this subject by any means
Peter. I just enjoy operating some digital modes (CW not being
one of them).
Hamish
--
Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <hamish@debian.org> <hamish@cloud.net.au>
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Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 12:40:58 GMT
From: TomR@astro.net
Subject: Digipan Software for PSK-31
On Fri, 30 Jun 2000 13:28:47 -0400, "Mark Flanagan" <markf@cshore.com>
wrote:
>I have just hooked up my rig to receive PSK-31. I downloaded a couple
>programs but after Steve (WB8IMY) Ford's review of Digipan in QST I went
>with that. I really don't have it all figured out yet and also have yet to
>get the wiring right for sending. I would like to hear your comments on
>which program you find best for which PSK-31 application. My uses will be
>strictly DX, ragchewing and logging.
I use Digipan, shows a nice piece of the spectrum, a simple click on
the signal and there it is. Set the rig on 14.069.5 and leave it
there. You'll see anywhere from 3-7 or 8 signals at once usually.
>Also, what seems to be the best method for keying, using the computer's
>serial port or the rig's vox?
I use serial port with the Rigblaster. Works VERY well. Man this is
one FUN mode!
>Mark Flanagan, K1MKF
>k1mkf@qsl.net
>http://www.qsl.net/k1mkf/
Tom - KB2SMS
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Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 11:17:49 -0400
From: "J. Duffy Beischel" <duffyb01@fuse.net (NOSPAM)>
Subject: Digipan Software for PSK-31
My choice is WINpsk. The user interface is the best and while the receiving
display is not as good as Digipan, it is still pretty good. The better user
interface is worth sacrificing the display. My opinion.
Regards,
Duffy
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<TomR@astro.net> wrote in message news:395de5f7.83094849@news.idsi.net...
> On Fri, 30 Jun 2000 13:28:47 -0400, "Mark Flanagan" <markf@cshore.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I have just hooked up my rig to receive PSK-31. I downloaded a couple
> >programs but after Steve (WB8IMY) Ford's review of Digipan in QST I went
> >with that. I really don't have it all figured out yet and also have yet
to
> >get the wiring right for sending. I would like to hear your comments on
> >which program you find best for which PSK-31 application. My uses will
be
> >strictly DX, ragchewing and logging.
>
> I use Digipan, shows a nice piece of the spectrum, a simple click on
> the signal and there it is. Set the rig on 14.069.5 and leave it
> there. You'll see anywhere from 3-7 or 8 signals at once usually.
>
> >Also, what seems to be the best method for keying, using the computer's
> >serial port or the rig's vox?
>
> I use serial port with the Rigblaster. Works VERY well. Man this is
> one FUN mode!
>
> >Mark Flanagan, K1MKF
> >k1mkf@qsl.net
> >http://www.qsl.net/k1mkf/
>
> Tom - KB2SMS
>
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Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2000 01:56:07 GMT
From: "Gil Baron W0MN" <gbaron@usa.net>
Subject: Digipan Software for PSK-31
Very good, I gave up completely on Digipan., However, there is also
Zakanaka. You should try that. It does a LOT and can copy 3 signals at
one time. It has some problems and some design things I don't like but
I think it may be the best right now.
ALL the things can be found at HTTP://www.psk3a.com. ZAKA is best but
they only put it up 24 hours at a time so you have to catch it. It
just went up today for beta 8.
"J. Duffy Beischel" <duffyb01(NOSPAM)@fuse.net> wrote in message
news:sls2rutdop385@corp.supernews.com...
> My choice is WINpsk. The user interface is the best and while the
receiving
> display is not as good as Digipan, it is still pretty good. The
better user
> interface is worth sacrificing the display. My opinion.
>
> Regards,
>
> Duffy
>
> --
> _________________________________________________________
> Amateur Radio WB8NUT - ARRL Member
>
> NRA Life Member
> "If the government is the only one allowed to possess
> guns, are we still a free people?"
>
> Please find out about rec.guns at:
> http://doubletap.cs.umd.edu/rec.guns
>
> Proud to be a member of the vast right wing conspiracy
> to get the Clintons
> _________________________________________________________
>
> <TomR@astro.net> wrote in message
news:395de5f7.83094849@news.idsi.net...
> > On Fri, 30 Jun 2000 13:28:47 -0400, "Mark Flanagan"
<markf@cshore.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >I have just hooked up my rig to receive PSK-31. I downloaded a
couple
> > >programs but after Steve (WB8IMY) Ford's review of Digipan in QST
I went
> > >with that. I really don't have it all figured out yet and also
have yet
> to
> > >get the wiring right for sending. I would like to hear your
comments on
> > >which program you find best for which PSK-31 application. My
uses will
> be
> > >strictly DX, ragchewing and logging.
> >
> > I use Digipan, shows a nice piece of the spectrum, a simple click
on
> > the signal and there it is. Set the rig on 14.069.5 and leave it
> > there. You'll see anywhere from 3-7 or 8 signals at once usually.
> >
> > >Also, what seems to be the best method for keying, using the
computer's
> > >serial port or the rig's vox?
> >
> > I use serial port with the Rigblaster. Works VERY well. Man this
is
> > one FUN mode!
> >
> > >Mark Flanagan, K1MKF
> > >k1mkf@qsl.net
> > >http://www.qsl.net/k1mkf/
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