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> presidency?
>
> Stewart Teaze - N0MHS
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Date: 24 Jun 2000 06:29:57 GMT
From: pmunsel@aol.com (PMunsel)
Subject: Wake up TAPR!
If you can liven things up, and help take Hams forward (and get them
interested
again), by all means go for it! Packet was once a lively mode where I live,
but
folks have drifted away. We lost W5AC's BBS because no one seemed to want to
take care of it, and it was a Rose Switch as well. Then we lost W5XO, as he
was
trying to keep things running, and no one wanted to cooperate. Now, the
closest
thing to me is in Temple, Tx. or Houston, and both are a bit too far to hit
from my QTH. Seems there should be some way to get some of the activity back.
Paul Munsel N5XMV
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Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 12:04:36 GMT
From: TomR@astro.net
Subject: Wake up TAPR!
On 24 Jun 2000 06:29:57 GMT, pmunsel@aol.com (PMunsel) wrote:
>If you can liven things up, and help take Hams forward (and get them
interested
>again), by all means go for it! Packet was once a lively mode where I live,
but
>folks have drifted away. We lost W5AC's BBS because no one seemed to want to
>take care of it, and it was a Rose Switch as well. Then we lost W5XO, as he
was
>trying to keep things running, and no one wanted to cooperate. Now, the
closest
>thing to me is in Temple, Tx. or Houston, and both are a bit too far to hit
>from my QTH. Seems there should be some way to get some of the activity back.
>
>Paul Munsel N5XMV
Packet is dead where I live too. 5 years ago it was JUMPING, lots of
BBSs around, you could find a live qso, etc. Now? The only action is
the local packet cluster and APRS. Sad. Packet was fun.
73,
Tom - KB2SMS
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Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 08:30:06 -0400
From: no.spam@no.junk.mail.net
Subject: Wake up TAPR!
On Sat, 24 Jun 2000 12:04:36 GMT, TomR@astro.net wrote:
>On 24 Jun 2000 06:29:57 GMT, pmunsel@aol.com (PMunsel) wrote:
>>If you can liven things up, and help take Hams forward (and get them
interested
>>again), by all means go for it! Packet was once a lively mode where I live,
but
>>folks have drifted away. We lost W5AC's BBS because no one seemed to want to
>>take care of it, and it was a Rose Switch as well. Then we lost W5XO, as he
was
>>trying to keep things running, and no one wanted to cooperate. Now, the
closest
>>thing to me is in Temple, Tx. or Houston, and both are a bit too far to hit
>>from my QTH. Seems there should be some way to get some of the activity
back.
>>Paul Munsel N5XMV
> Packet is dead where I live too. 5 years ago it was JUMPING, lots of
>BBSs around, you could find a live qso, etc. Now? The only action is
>the local packet cluster and APRS. Sad. Packet was fun.
>73, Tom - KB2SMS
Packet is dead here to. Killed by old fools running 1200 baud bbses and
dreaming
about a 'live' keyboarding sessions.
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Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 14:30:05 GMT
From: jwfrank@toad.net (John Frank)
Subject: Wake up TAPR!
In article <3954a376.55915658@news.idsi.net>, TomR@astro.net says...
>
>
> Packet is dead where I live too. 5 years ago it was JUMPING, lots of
>BBSs around, you could find a live qso, etc. Now? The only action is
>the local packet cluster and APRS. Sad. Packet was fun.
>73,
>
I think we did it to ourselves on packet. I know the reason
I got away from packet, except for the DX cluster, is that the
coordinating body for it put all the BBS's on the same frequency.
It made it very difficult to use them because of all the collisions
on that frequency. It was just too much of a hassle to me so I
just stopped using it. I expect there have been a lot of other folks
who followed the same path or a similar path for other reasons. Of
course the rise of the internet didn't help because one could get
info much faster here than via packet.
John K3IC
>Tom - KB2SMS
>
>
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Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 16:20:26 GMT
From: horseshoestew@my-deja.com
Subject: Wake up TAPR!
In article <20000624022957.02785.00000495@ng-ff1.aol.com>,
pmunsel@aol.com (PMunsel) wrote:
> If you can liven things up, and help take Hams forward (and get them
interested
> again), by all means go for it! Packet was once a lively mode where I
live, but
> folks have drifted away. We lost W5AC's BBS because no one seemed to
want to
> take care of it, and it was a Rose Switch as well. Then we lost W5XO,
as he was
> trying to keep things running, and no one wanted to cooperate. Now,
the closest
> thing to me is in Temple, Tx. or Houston, and both are a bit too far
to hit
> from my QTH. Seems there should be some way to get some of the
activity back.
Absolutely. Now that a lot of folks are getting super high-speed
connections in their homes via cable modems and DSL connections, there
is no reason why they can't put up a gateway, and let other people
access the Internet thru their station. An Internet-based packet
system would kick-ass. I can't understand why more people aren't doing
it - it is cheaper in the long run.
If die-hard hams start crying foul, because there is too-much
commercial activity, well then, we will just stay Part 15 compliant -
just mount those antennas high, keep your transmissions lines short,
and DO NOT use an inexpensive high-gain directional antenna :)
> Paul Munsel N5XMV
Stewart - N0MHS
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Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 07:45:04 +0100
From: Ian Wade <Ian.Wade@care4free.net>
Subject: What is APRS?
Several people have asked lately about APRS. Here is a brief intro:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
====================
INTRODUCTION TO APRS
====================
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What is APRS?
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APRS is short for Automatic Position Reporting System, which was
introduced by Bob Bruninga, WB4APR, at the 1992 TAPR/ARRL Digital
Communications Conference. Fundamentally, APRS is a packet
communications protocol for disseminating live data to everyone on a
network in real time. Its most visual feature is the combination of
packet radio with the Global Positioning System (GPS) satellite network,
enabling radio amateurs to automatically display the positions of radio
stations and other objects on maps on a PC. Other features not directly
related to position reporting are supported, such as weather station
reporting, direction finding and messaging.
APRS is different from regular packet in several ways:
* It provides maps and other data displays, for vehicle/personnel
location and weather reporting in real time.
* It performs all communications using a one-to-many protocol, so that
everyone is updated immediately.
* It uses generic digipeating, with well-known callsign aliases, so that
prior knowledge of network topology is not required.
* It supports intelligent digipeating, with callsign substitution to
reduce network flooding.
* Using AX.25 UI-frames, it supports two-way messaging and distribution
of bulletins and announcements, leading to fast dissemination of text
information.
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