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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 23:17:21 -0700
From: DMT <dmt@netcom.com>
Subject: Kenwood TH-D7A
Does the A or G version support KISS (TCP/IP)? TNX
Walter Dunckel wrote:
This radio has recently been upgraded to a TH-D7A(G). I would recomend
> purchasing this upgraded model. Here are the changes:
> http://www.radiohound.com/2000upgrade.htm .
>
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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 15:33:48 -0400
From: Gary Coffman <ke4zv@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Packet Radio
On Tue, 20 Jun 2000 08:24:52 +1000, "David Findlay" <nedz@bigpond.com> wrote:
>Well i'm still going to build my segment. at least I can use it.
That's the spirit. You can do it on a small scale. It is just scaling it up to
cover large populations and large areas that is out of amateur reach.
Do spring for the Proceedings volumes, there's an incredible amount
of good information in them which will help you avoid re-inventing the
wheel.
Gary
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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 23:57:22 GMT
From: horseshoestew@my-deja.com
Subject: Packet Radio
In article <Kli35.3421$c5.8243@newsfeeds.bigpond.com>,
"David Findlay" <nedz@bigpond.com> wrote:
> The problem with you people is that you can't see past your $300
radio and
> realize that people can actually build their own gear.
Don't be silly. Why would you want to build your own gear? How can
you compete with a commercial company mass-producing a $120 RF network
card? And these prices will drop as more companies compete for your
dollar. Where we CAN do are own work, and where it makes a BIG
difference, is with the antenna and feedline.
> > Networks or store and forward? Most here are very interested in RF
> > networks. Not many are interested in a BBS or email engine (S&F).
> > We got that already for free.
>
> Okay so store & forward isn't the best, but at least it was better
that what
> exists now.
No Way, Jose - We now have the Internet! It is AWESOME, and we need to
use it as a backbone. All you have to do is hook up stations to Linux
gateways hooked into the Internet thru super hi-speed, super cheap DSL
and Cable Modem connections.
> David Findlay
Stewart - N0MHS
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 10:42:38 +1000
From: "David Findlay" <nedz@bigpond.com>
Subject: Packet Radio
> Don't be silly. Why would you want to build your own gear? How can
> you compete with a commercial company mass-producing a $120 RF network
> card? And these prices will drop as more companies compete for your
> dollar. Where we CAN do are own work, and where it makes a BIG
> difference, is with the antenna and feedline.
I don't think we are ever going to agree on that one. I think you have more
fun and learn more from building it yourself.
> No Way, Jose - We now have the Internet! It is AWESOME, and we need to
> use it as a backbone. All you have to do is hook up stations to Linux
> gateways hooked into the Internet thru super hi-speed, super cheap DSL
> and Cable Modem connections.
No way. What we need is a totally independant network. The internet is too
slow. If I can get my gear working we could have 10Mb mobile in any
populated area. Okay so we would need email and news gateways, but lets do
something that doesn't rely on the internet.
David Findlay
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 08:26:19 GMT
From: nomail@rob.knoware.nl (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Packet Radio
David Findlay <nedz@bigpond.com> wrote:
>> Don't be silly. Why would you want to build your own gear? How can
>> you compete with a commercial company mass-producing a $120 RF network
>> card? And these prices will drop as more companies compete for your
>> dollar. Where we CAN do are own work, and where it makes a BIG
>> difference, is with the antenna and feedline.
>I don't think we are ever going to agree on that one. I think you have more
>fun and learn more from building it yourself.
You may think that it is more fun, and it certainly is, but most people
will ask the question "what is the cost?" as soon as you have finished
talking about all the potential fun.
AT least, that is the situation here. But then, our people have the name
to be like that (after the Scots, maybe).
>> No Way, Jose - We now have the Internet! It is AWESOME, and we need to
>> use it as a backbone. All you have to do is hook up stations to Linux
>> gateways hooked into the Internet thru super hi-speed, super cheap DSL
>> and Cable Modem connections.
>No way. What we need is a totally independant network. The internet is too
>slow. If I can get my gear working we could have 10Mb mobile in any
>populated area. Okay so we would need email and news gateways, but lets do
>something that doesn't rely on the internet.
Hmmm... high speed is not really an attribute that most people would
assign to amateur packet radio... (understatement of the month)
I have done mobile packet, and it was fun. But not at 10 Mbps. When that
works it will probably be a lot of fun, but I doubt that you can make it
working...
When you want to have fun, it is better to first try that weather satellite
project. That gives a lot more fun for the effort and cost!
Rob
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