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73 DE Charles Brabham,
N5PVL @ N5PVL.#NTX.TX.USA.NOAM
http://www.texoma.net/~n5pvl
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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 08:11:37 -0500
From: JoAnne Maenpaa <QA1955@email.mot.com>
Subject: N0ZO no longer supports Keyboard inputs!
Charles wrote:
> Yes, It's true that the US amateur tcpip community have been idiots,
> alienating Hams on a large scale basis with their rude, ignorant
> behavior.
This is main reason why I'm not on TCP/IP any more. And an amusing
thing is they are arrogant about a technology that runs just about
as slowly as the format a: command did on my original 4.77 MHz IBM PC.
I work with digital radio as you may see from my address in the header.
But, I decided to not stomach their attitude.
--
JoAnne WB9JEJ
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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 15:18:39 GMT
From: "Hank Oredson" <horedson@att.net>
Subject: N0ZO no longer supports Keyboard inputs!
K. Falls and a few other rather similar places.
The same folks who built a "network" by putting all the nodes
on one frequency ... and then complain when anyone tries to
use them because using them causes "congestion".
There was a similar "network" in Eastern Oregon/Washington.
At one time there were 27 or 28 nodes, all on the same frequency!
I think they are mostly gone now.
--
... Hank
http://horedson.home.att.net
"Steve Sampson" <ssampson@usa-site.net> wrote in message
news:sj94tbgn5pj91@corp.supernews.com...
> As a former prisoner of Klamath Falls, that sounds pretty
> much like something they would do.
>
> I always wondered where the Falls were in Klamath. Turns
> out they were referring to the rock falls which kill tourists
> every year in their campers and motor homes on Highway 97...
>
> "Hank Oredson" wrote
>
> > > By "pure data" I mean, it's all just data, not denoted by content.
> >
> > Like the nodes in Southern Oregon that have an ID string that says
> > something like "No TCP/IP allowed on this frequency!".
> >
> > Idiots.
>
>
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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 17:41:41 GMT
From: nomail@rob.knoware.nl (Rob Janssen)
Subject: N0ZO no longer supports Keyboard inputs!
JoAnne Maenpaa <QA1955@email.mot.com> wrote:
>Charles wrote:
>> Yes, It's true that the US amateur tcpip community have been idiots,
>> alienating Hams on a large scale basis with their rude, ignorant
>> behavior.
>This is main reason why I'm not on TCP/IP any more. And an amusing
>thing is they are arrogant about a technology that runs just about
>as slowly as the format a: command did on my original 4.77 MHz IBM PC.
You may be surprised that the entire Internet as you know it today uses
those same protocols. In fact, the amateurs that introduced TCP/IP to
packet radio did so at a time most people did not know what the Internet
was or would be.
It is not TCP/IP technogogy that is slow, it is the modem technology used
by hams that is making it appear slow. Most packet users today still use
the 1200 bps AFSK modem that was chosen more than 15 years ago as a quick
way to get things running. Even the fact that the modem chips were
discontinued by the manufacturers one by one has not awakened them.
Rob
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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 13:06:17 -0600
From: "Warren Wu" <warrenwu@uswest.net>
Subject: N0ZO no longer supports Keyboard inputs!
Rob wrote in message ...
>Hi Jerry,
>
<SNIP>
>For portable use, I like using a small portable dumb terminal that runs on
a
>couple of AA batteries. These terminal are very inexpensive these days
and
>are VERY durable with NO moving parts like hard drives etc.
Who makes your portable dumb term? I've been trying to get ahold of one, but
I can't seem to find any. Of course, I wouldn't know exactly what I'm
looking for, as I'm 16 and missed out on the really old computers.
--
Warren Wu
KC0HAK
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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 16:00:00 -0400
From: "Rob" <Pse@NoEmail.Com>
Subject: N0ZO no longer supports Keyboard inputs!
Hi Warren,
I have a NEC PC-8300. It is very small with a small LCD screen -- approx. 8
lines by 40 characters. There are other models with larger screens (e.g. 40
lines by 40 characters). NEC also made the same computers for Radio Shack
which were branded under the Tandy name in the 80's.
It is really a small computer. It has its own Operating System (OS), built
in BASIC interpreter for your own programs, built in word processor and a
built in terminal program. The OS and programs are all burned into a ROM.
There is No waiting when you turn on the PC-8300. You just select whether
you want to run of your BASIC programs, the word processor or the terminal
program.
It has 32 KB or 64 KB of RAM to hold your programs and word processing
documents. The RAM is backed up with a small rechargeable battery.
It also has one serial port and one parallel printer port. There is also a
built in modem (1200 baud I think. High speed at the time)
There are NO disk drives, no moving parts. There is a port to hook up a
cassette player to record and store your programs and documents.
These type of computers were very popular at the time. They were the first
TRUE notebook computers. You could easily put one in your brief case and
use it to write letters and memos.
Workers in many industrial plants also used them to hook up to remote
microprocessor based computer systems located throughout the plant. (e.g.
factory automation etc). They are VERY durable (since there are no moving
parts).
These days, people tend to use the much smaller Palm Pilots or similar
devices (with their much smaller screens) for similar applications.
Look around at flea markets or on EBAY. You should be able to find a NEC
PC-8300 or one of the TANDY clones. If you can try to find one with a
bigger screen. I wish I acquired one with a bigger screen years ago.
I really like the PC-8300 small dumb terminal mode for use with my packet or
Pactor controller when going portable or mobile. It is very small and
convenient. It also does NOT generate any RFI (unlike my PC's monitor).
Good Luck
73's
Rob
"Warren Wu" <warrenwu@uswest.net> wrote in message
news:AsdZ4.665$bR5.17835@news.uswest.net...
>
> Rob wrote in message ...
> >Hi Jerry,
> >
> <SNIP>
>
> >For portable use, I like using a small portable dumb terminal that runs
on
> a
> >couple of AA batteries. These terminal are very inexpensive these days
> and
> >are VERY durable with NO moving parts like hard drives etc.
>
>
> Who makes your portable dumb term? I've been trying to get ahold of one,
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