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A golden era concerning the availability of tower space is upon us, for
those who know where to look and why.
Many companies and entities that have used analog commercial radio to
communicate in a big way in the past (railroads, for example) are currently
switching over to systems utilizing the Internet for the bulk of the
distance covered, augmented with cellular tech to get the new digital sigs
to/from the final distance.
They are basically doing the same thing that "LandLine Lids" have tried to
do with Amateur Packet Radio, forgetting that the Internet is simply not Ham
Radio, and what is appropriate for large corporations is not always the best
idea for Hams.
Yes, cellular uses Radio, but it is not the same radios on the same towers.
As a result, many commercially owned towers are sitting virtually unused,
"white elephants" that must nonetheless be maintained due to the fact that
they not that easy to quickly sell off. In many cases, hard-won commercioal
tower sites/towers are being maintained simply because of the difficulty in
replacing them later if they are abandoned today, or because of contractural
obligations.
Donating space on these towers for Amateur use is always good PR for such
companies, and in some cases can provide a "write off" for a portion of the
expense involved in maintaining them. (If the space is donated to a
non-profit Ham organization as opposed to deals made with individual Hams.)
Hint, hint.
--
73 DE Charles Brabham, N5PVL
N5PVL @ N5PVL.#NTX.TX.USA.NOAM
http://www.texoma.net/~n5pvl
>.
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 08:11:41 -0600
From: "Charles Brabham" <n5pvl@texoma.net>
Subject: Tower Space
Steve Sampson <ssampson@usa-site.net> wrote in message
news:sbia117nr2a27@corp.supernews.com...
> > A golden era concerning the availability of tower space is upon us, for
> > those who know where to look and why.
>
> Gosh! A free ride...
A donated one, perhaps, but even this is not strictly necessary.
Non-profit organizations have (if they choose to) one thing that individual
hams do not have - namely "money". $$
Money for equipment, money for hiring professionals when needed, money for
insurance, and even money for leasing tower space, when donated space cannot
be arrainged.
Heck, even a relitively small private repeater/packet organization I once
served on hired a professional tower worker. (Hard to get ANY Ham to
seriously consider working on a 1000 ft. tower, even if the owners would
allow it!)
>
> > They are basically doing the same thing that "LandLine Lids" have tried
to
> > do
>
> CB talk again...
That problem differentiating between Ham and Non-Ham again...
--
73 DE Charles Brabham, N5PVL
N5PVL @ N5PVL.#NTX.TX.USA.NOAM
http://www.texoma.net/~n5pvl
>.
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 12:18:03 -0800
From: "Cathryn Mataga" <cathryn@junglevision.com>
Subject: Tower Space
Interesting. That's an interesting point -- did you find someone
actually with tower space to spare? Are these the 'high level'
tower sites -- like up on peaks and things, or cellphone
type towers?
"Charles Brabham" <n5pvl@texoma.net> wrote in message
news:89b4el02au9@enews1.newsguy.com...
> A golden era concerning the availability of tower space is upon us, for
> those who know where to look and why.
>
> Many companies and entities that have used analog commercial radio to
> communicate in a big way in the past (railroads, for example) are currently
> switching over to systems utilizing the Internet for the bulk of the
> distance covered, augmented with cellular tech to get the new digital sigs
> to/from the final distance.
>
> They are basically doing the same thing that "LandLine Lids" have tried to
> do with Amateur Packet Radio, forgetting that the Internet is simply not Ham
> Radio, and what is appropriate for large corporations is not always the best
> idea for Hams.
>
> Yes, cellular uses Radio, but it is not the same radios on the same towers.
> As a result, many commercially owned towers are sitting virtually unused,
> "white elephants" that must nonetheless be maintained due to the fact that
> they not that easy to quickly sell off. In many cases, hard-won commercioal
> tower sites/towers are being maintained simply because of the difficulty in
> replacing them later if they are abandoned today, or because of contractural
> obligations.
>
> Donating space on these towers for Amateur use is always good PR for such
> companies, and in some cases can provide a "write off" for a portion of the
> expense involved in maintaining them. (If the space is donated to a
> non-profit Ham organization as opposed to deals made with individual Hams.)
>
> Hint, hint.
>
> --
>
> 73 DE Charles Brabham, N5PVL
> N5PVL @ N5PVL.#NTX.TX.USA.NOAM
> http://www.texoma.net/~n5pvl
>
>
>
>
>
>.
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 15:04:03 -0500
From: "Ed Woodrick" <ewoodricknospam@ed-com.com>
Subject: Tower Space
Two-way radio as it has been known, is on it's way out. Many of the high
sites in Atlanta are close to vacant. The only folks who are still on them
are the paging services. Just about any site with two-way radio on it is
getting more room. In many locations, Nextel has just about wiped out
two-way radio.
"Cathryn Mataga" <cathryn@junglevision.com> wrote in message
news:Qjfu4.68$Sl6.3080@nuq-read.news.verio.net...
> Interesting. That's an interesting point -- did you find someone
> actually with tower space to spare? Are these the 'high level'
> tower sites -- like up on peaks and things, or cellphone
> type towers?
>
>
> "Charles Brabham" <n5pvl@texoma.net> wrote in message
news:89b4el02au9@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > A golden era concerning the availability of tower space is upon us, for
> > those who know where to look and why.
> >
> > Many companies and entities that have used analog commercial radio to
> > communicate in a big way in the past (railroads, for example) are
currently
> > switching over to systems utilizing the Internet for the bulk of the
> > distance covered, augmented with cellular tech to get the new digital
sigs
> > to/from the final distance.
> >
> > They are basically doing the same thing that "LandLine Lids" have tried
to
> > do with Amateur Packet Radio, forgetting that the Internet is simply not
Ham
> > Radio, and what is appropriate for large corporations is not always the
best
> > idea for Hams.
> >
> > Yes, cellular uses Radio, but it is not the same radios on the same
towers.
> > As a result, many commercially owned towers are sitting virtually
unused,
> > "white elephants" that must nonetheless be maintained due to the fact
that
> > they not that easy to quickly sell off. In many cases, hard-won
commercioal
> > tower sites/towers are being maintained simply because of the difficulty
in
> > replacing them later if they are abandoned today, or because of
contractural
> > obligations.
> >
> > Donating space on these towers for Amateur use is always good PR for
such
> > companies, and in some cases can provide a "write off" for a portion of
the
> > expense involved in maintaining them. (If the space is donated to a
> > non-profit Ham organization as opposed to deals made with individual
Hams.)
> >
> > Hint, hint.
> >
> > --
> >
> > 73 DE Charles Brabham, N5PVL
> > N5PVL @ N5PVL.#NTX.TX.USA.NOAM
> > http://www.texoma.net/~n5pvl
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