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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 07:00:18 +0100
From: Albert Aerts <no@spam.be>
Subject: Pactor, PSK31, antiques
Please visit "The Aerts Family homepage" featuring amateur radio, amtor,
pactor, PSK31, antique radios and cameras.
http://gallery.uunet.be/albert.aerts
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 13:10:30 -0600
From: W6RCecilA <Cecil.A.Moore@IEEE.org>
Subject: Where docs for pactor, amtor, clover, etc...
Alexander Kurpiers wrote:
> Does this mean that Pactor-II is not legal for US amateurs?
If the FCC cannot monitor PACTOR-II, it is probably illegal
for US amateurs to us it. Since it is in use by US amateurs,
it can probably be assumed that the FCC has all the information
and equipment needed to monitor it.
--
73, Cecil, W6RCA http://www.mindspring.com/~w6rca
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 19:27:51 +0100
From: Alexander Kurpiers <a.kurpiers@uet.tu-darmstadt.de>
Subject: Where docs for pactor, amtor, clover, etc...
Bob Lewis wrote:
> Not below 50 Mhz they can't. In the U.S., unspecified digital codes
> can only be used above 50 Mhz according to 97.307 and even then they
> can not be used with the intent to obscure the meaning of the
> transmission (i.e. a "private mode"). 97.309(a) states that only
> Baudot, Amtor, and Ascii codes can be used. It further states that
> these codes can use any technique whose technical characteristics
> have been documented publicly, such as CLOVER, G-TOR, or PacTOR, for
> the purpose of facilitating communications. In other words, you must
Does this mean that Pactor-II is not legal for US amateurs?
73=B4 Alexander AB0CF/DL8AAU
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 18:33:33 -0600
From: "Steve Sampson" <ssampson@usa-site.net>
Subject: Where docs for pactor, amtor, clover, etc...
Paul Keinanen wrote in message ...
>Since HTML pages are by default decoded in ISO-8859-1 and most likely
>all non-English pages would contain some characters outside of the
>traditional 7 bit ASCII range, transmission of such pages would be
>technically illegal in the US on HF :-).
The FCC told the ARRL that they will not enforce the 8th bit use in ASCII
on HF. The statute is obsolete, they just haven't published a revision to the
law.
U.S. based Amateurs have been using the 8th bit for years.
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 01:56:16 GMT
From: "John Roberts" <johnr@ece.jhu.edu>
Subject: Where docs for pactor, amtor, clover, etc...
W6RCecilA <Cecil.A.Moore@IEEE.org> wrote in message
news:38344F26.884474D6@IEEE.org...
> Alexander Kurpiers wrote:
> > Does this mean that Pactor-II is not legal for US amateurs?
>
> If the FCC cannot monitor PACTOR-II, it is probably illegal
> for US amateurs to us it. Since it is in use by US amateurs,
> it can probably be assumed that the FCC has all the information
> and equipment needed to monitor it.
How can I monitor the Pactor II used by the Swiss-PTC II when in "private
mode".
Is there really no information on this "private mode" that the Swiss-PTC II
is capable of? I'm hearing it a lot (not US and not Hams) and I want to be
able to see what is being said. Any advice?
Thanks,
John
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 04:47:18 GMT
From: "Mont O'Leary" <k0ycn@w5fc.org>
Subject: Where docs for pactor, amtor, clover, etc...
Since I'm new to HF digital, which of these modes are actually used? Any
ideas on percentages? How do the various modes stack up with PSK31?
Mont - K0YCN
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 23:10:52 -0600
From: W6RCecilA <Cecil.A.Moore@IEEE.org>
Subject: Where docs for pactor, amtor, clover, etc...
Mont O'Leary wrote:
> Since I'm new to HF digital, which of these modes are actually used? Any
> ideas on percentages? How do the various modes stack up with PSK31?
Different modes have different characteristics. If you want a replacement
for keyboard RTTY, PSK31 is a good choice. If you want pretty much error-
free message handling with mailboxes, PACTOR is a good choice. Seems to
me PSK31 and PACTOR are the most popular presently. Don't know much about
G-TOR and CLOVER. RTTY is error-prone and has a limited character set.
I plan to try PACTOR II pretty soon.
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73, Cecil, W6RCA http://www.mindspring.com/~w6rca
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Date: 19 Nov 1999 07:18:39 GMT
From: Hamish Moffatt <hamish@rising.com.au>
Subject: Where docs for pactor, amtor, clover, etc...
W6RCecilA <Cecil.A.Moore@IEEE.org> wrote:
> Different modes have different characteristics. If you want a replacement
> for keyboard RTTY, PSK31 is a good choice. If you want pretty much error-
> free message handling with mailboxes, PACTOR is a good choice. Seems to
> me PSK31 and PACTOR are the most popular presently. Don't know much about
> G-TOR and CLOVER. RTTY is error-prone and has a limited character set.
> I plan to try PACTOR II pretty soon.
And if you're going to operate PACTOR, *please* listen to the
frequency before you start to operate. As a PSK31 regular, it seems
to me that a lot of PACTOR operators don't listen first.
Hamish VK3SB
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 05:12:54 -0600
From: "Steve Sampson" <ssampson@usa-site.net>
Subject: Where docs for pactor, amtor, clover, etc...
hey, you're a Ham, roll your own.
You could buy one, and reverse engineer it...
John Roberts wrote
>
>How can I monitor the Pactor II used by the Swiss-PTC II when in "private
>mode".
>
>Is there really no information on this "private mode" that the Swiss-PTC II
>is capable of? I'm hearing it a lot (not US and not Hams) and I want to be
>able to see what is being said. Any advice?
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