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Ham-Digital Digest Wed, 17 Nov 99 Volume 99 : Issue 294
Today's Topics:
6 meter packet
from newsline...amateurs provide Internet access in UK
NOVICE: replacing line modems with packet radio technology?
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Date: 16 Nov 1999 19:10:19 GMT
From: hmaxon@aol.com (HMaxon)
Subject: 6 meter packet
We do 6m FM packet here at Grand Island, Nebraska on 51.70.
Howard
Amateur Radio WR0K
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Date: 16 Nov 1999 07:45:39 -0500
From: esj@harvee.billerica.ma.us (Eric S. Johansson)
Subject: from newsline...amateurs provide Internet access in UK
this is an experiment worth watching. It would be interesting to see
how we can replicate the experiment in United States in such a way
that we prevent commercial encroachment while increasing amateur radio
activity. My belief is the best way to do this is via the same model
that we used for repeaters, i.e. club based connectivity. That way
appropriate funding can be had for the Internet connection in a
noncommercial context.
HAM RADIO MAY JOIN THE INTERNET IN THE U-K
United Kingdom hams may be permitted direct connection of their
stations to the Internet by years end. This as the nations radio
regulators look for ways to encourage more people to join the hobby.
Jeramy Boot, G4NJH, has the story from Nottingham England:
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David Hendon, Chief Executive of the Radiocommunications Agency on the
29th of October announced the start of a two month consultation period
hopefully leading to limited amateur radio access to the Internet by
the turn of the year.
Mr Hendon, speaking at the ' Making Connections' roadshow in London
spoke of the important role amateur radio had, in the past, played in
encouraging young people to take up a career in radio engineering. He
spoke of the decline of amateur radio world wide and he emphasized the
need to make amateur radio an attractive pursuit for young people to
take up. Linking amateur radio to the Internet would be an important
step forward.
It is hoped, subject to licensing considerations, that limited access
perhaps via the Repeater Network would be in operation by Christmas.
However, he stressed that this would just be the start. The amateur
community would be consulted fully to ensure the best possible use was
made of this initiative.
Jeramy Boot, G4NJH.
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Eric S. Johansson ka1eec esj@harvee.billerica.ma.us
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Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 06:46:37 -0600
From: "Steve Sampson" <ssampson@usa-site.net>
Subject: NOVICE: replacing line modems with packet radio technology?
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Shahbaz Chaudhary wrote
>I've read a few papers and intro. articles on packet radio and how it =
can do
>tcp/ip. There doesn't seem to be a lot of information on how many =
people
>are regularly using this to get on the internet. I couldn't find much
>information on how the costs compare to line modem ISPs and didn't see =
much
>about the distances/line of site requirements.
It works for email down to very low baud rates. But email is not what =
it was
10 years ago. 10 years ago, email was not MIME encoded to the extent it
is today. People think very little about attaching pretty backgrounds, =
MS-Word
and even spreadsheets to mail. The old paradigm of connecting to a BBS
over packet and getting just plain email is almost over. I run an =
internet
gateway and have a few users hundreds of miles away who access the
gateway at 1200 baud (about 30 baud effective through several node =
hops).
They are often confronted by MIME encoded email, and not having the =
desire
to set up their own gateway, tend to just delete the mail unread. It's =
too hard
to get the encoded mail and then import it into a browser or microsoft =
product.
Plus it takes all day to download it.
>It costs about $15 to $20 a month to get internet connection, so =
perhaps
>that's why packet radio hasn't proliferated. However, in parts of the =
world
>getting internet connection through standard telecommunication media is
>extremely expensive (if short phone calls are expensive, an hour on =
internet
>per day can add up).
Those same countries probably have laws that prevent radios from being
used to bypass their utility.
>If someone wants to set up an ISP (perhaps city wide, for a fairly
>large/congested city) using radio instead of phone/xDSL/cable/etc., =
what
>issues need to be addressed. What are the limitations. For example, =
it
>seems like someone using this radio technology will be able to have a =
24
>hour connection, albeit a slower one. However, that should be fine for =
an
>average middle class home outside of the rich/developed countries who
>basically needs email and maybe a little web access.
What you want to invest in, is spread spectrum modems. These are =
ethernet
cards with an antenna jack. They have ethernet and radio built-in. =
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