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any bad ESP -- without it's ethernet cable, it's not going to be a problem.
Did you have any Samba volumes mounted? You did mention Samba.
If it's not DHCP, then, that's the next logical thing to suspect, imo. Because
Windows might still try to talk to fileservers even after they're
disconnected.
There were some changes from Win95 to Win98, that caused problems
with Samba, I vaguely recall. Though I don't recall this being a crashing
problem.
>> Possibly there's some other issue. If you install Linux and you just tell
>it
>> to turn on everything, not knowing what it all is, it might cause a
>problem. Me,
>> I only run what I need and don't turn on, for example, smbd, or Linux
>netbios
>> stuff unless I really want it.
>
>> Though I also get all the patches and updates to Win98 pretty regularly.
>So,
>> maybe that's the obvious and easy thing to try. Me, I'm a little
>> hacker paranoid, so if there's some packet of death that blows out
>Windows,
>> I'd rather know what it is and fix it. Since possibly someone can send in
>> that same block from the internet onto your lan.
>
>No, it was clearly the simple act of loading Linux onto the machine that
>caused all the problems. They are over now, and everything is back to
>normal: nice stable Windows, DOS and CP/M systems.
No, it clearly has to be a packet on the lan -- or a cabling issue or
something like
that -- but going back to Windows fixed it, so it has to be a packet. There's
no way the hard drive of one machine is going affect anything.
I mean, really, like if Win98 crashes on a LAN with a Linux machine,
it seems likely it's going to be crashing, then also on a ham radio IP
network -- that also has Linux machines running on it. .
So, I don't see how this makes Win98 such a great a choice for doing ham
ip networking. I can't imagine, sticking one of these things on a hill
top or something.
(and I haven't seen this -- though I believe you that something happened.
Though come to think of it, this Win98 machine I'm using here does crash
out with memory errors, intermitently -- hmm. Though I wrote it off as
a memory leak in Ewan or maybe RealAudio.),
I'm not sure if there's really an isssue here or not, if the Win98 system
is setup right. Really, I would just say that if you're going to do NNTP
(the message format we're using right now!),
and that's where we started, you probably are better off on either
NT or Linux -- and that's only for the reason of that's what other
people doing NNTP are using. And, right now, I'm not aware of anybody
doing ax25 in NT, so that I think makes Linux pretty much your
leading contender for nntp on ax25/ip. If you want to go all Microsoft,
perhaps then the best way is to run the NT NNTP server, and then
network to a Win98 or NOS to ham radio. Though I've never tried
setting up NNTP on NT, myself, I imagine it works fine.
>.
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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 19:53:24 -0700
From: "Hank Oredson" <horedson@att.net>
Subject: The BBS network and tcp/ip.
Demetre Ch. Valaris <sv1uy@nest.sv1uy.ampr.ORG> wrote in message
news:2325.sv1uy@nest.sv1uy.ampr.org...
> Hank Oredson <horedson@att.net> wrote:
>
> > Where is a HAL P38 / PCI400 driver?
> > Where is the server to gateway telnet <-> net/rom <-> CLOVER <-> PACTOR?
>
> Well here is your big opportunity to write them yourself i.e. a driver
> for a HAL P38 / PCI400, a driver for a PTC-II etc. This way you would do
the
> amateur community a favour Hank.
>
> Just an idea for you to create a solution!!! Isn't that what you are
looking
> for?
Already done it ... long time ago.
They still work.
Others have done it as well, for DOS and Windows.
But nobody does it for Linux.
I wonder why?
--
... Hank
http://horedson.home.att.net
>.
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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 21:24:17 -0700
From: "Cathryn Mataga" <cathryn@junglevision.com>
Subject: The BBS network and tcp/ip.
Speaking of drivers, I have a MFJ 1276 right here, and I asked MFJ
via E-mail if there was host mode documentation for this thing, but they
never responded. It mentions host mode in a single sentence in the
manual and says there's docs for it, but so far I have seen no
evidence of this. Maybe the only way to talk to this box is by
massaging the ASCII commands, which I sort of dread.
So, if anybody knows how to program this thing -- I could use a pointer
for this.
Actually, the MFJ 1276, is kind of nice otherwise. It can do 9600 with
an add-on board, apparently, and is as cheap as you can go for Pactor.
I wasn't so sure about whether the P38 was still a live product. Though
checking out www.halcomm.com shows them still selling it. Actually
compared to the SCS boxes, these look like they get pretty good
throughput, for less money. It seems like we should be able to get
as good using software only, with the floating point being so fast
on the pentiums, nowadays -- so I'm not sure what kind of future these
sort of boards have.
I have also seen some messages on the Tapr board lately about how
BPQ is apparently still being worked on for win32 by somebody
out there, which was news to me as of a few days ago. So, maybe
there still is some life left in the DOS/win ham radio stuff.
Hank Oredson wrote in message <7u64ur$d8m$1@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>...
>
>Demetre Ch. Valaris <sv1uy@nest.sv1uy.ampr.ORG> wrote in message
>news:2325.sv1uy@nest.sv1uy.ampr.org...
>> Hank Oredson <horedson@att.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Where is a HAL P38 / PCI400 driver?
>> > Where is the server to gateway telnet <-> net/rom <-> CLOVER <-> PACTOR?
>>
>> Well here is your big opportunity to write them yourself i.e. a driver
>> for a HAL P38 / PCI400, a driver for a PTC-II etc. This way you would do
>the
>> amateur community a favour Hank.
>>
>> Just an idea for you to create a solution!!! Isn't that what you are
>looking
>> for?
>
>Already done it ... long time ago.
>They still work.
>Others have done it as well, for DOS and Windows.
>
>But nobody does it for Linux.
>I wonder why?
>
>--
>
> ... Hank
>
>http://horedson.home.att.net
>
http://ke6i.com
>.
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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 00:24:07 -0500
From: "Rick Ruhl" <ricker@cssincorp.com>
Subject: The BBS network and tcp/ip.
Cathryn,
We've been working with MFJ on the host mode in the TNC's. It's called BLP
host and it's written by Howie Goldstein. A few years back, they had Howie
remove BLP from the 1270 for other features, and that firmware was part of
the 1276 firmware. BLP is only on the 1278B for now and it only supports
the packet modes. I have an old eprom they gave me that does BLP on the
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