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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 15:06:27 +0100
From: Roger Basford <Roger@g3vkm.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Help:Harris RF-3200 to PK232 and soundcard

Hi,

Thanks for reading this. I'm trying to interface a Harris RF-3200 SSB
transceiver to a PK232MBX terminal unit and also to my soundcard to run
PSK and Hellschreiber.

As I've had good results with my main rig, an IC-746, by using the
accessory sockets rather than the microphone connector I decided to use
the 15-way connector on the rear of the Harris in a similar fashion. I
have run into a problem using this connector in that I cannot get
sufficient audio into the rear socket to drive the rig to more than a
few Watts, whatever I set the TNC and soundcard AF output levels to.
Using the mic socket seems to work but as I need a 100:1 attenuator for
the soundcard output but not when using the TNC I will require two leads
or a switchable attenuator. Audio from the accessory socket and PTT are
both working fine.

Can anyone familiar with the RF-3200 tell me if there is a separate
adjustment inside the rig for line input? I do not have the radio's
technical manual so would need fairly detailed info. Also, is the mic
input disabled when the accessory socket is being used to key the rig,
it certainly appears that way?

TIA,

Roger Basford (G3VKM)
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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 13:31:10 -0500
From: "Rodrigo E. Rodriguez R. - CE6NUG" <rod@rdc.cl>
Subject: Is a TM-241 ready for 9k6???

well... I guess subject says it all.
Does anyone knows if TM-241 works fine at 9k6??
Thanks in advance.

Rod.
CE 6 NUG

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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 20:14:23 GMT
From: nomail@pe1chl.demon.nl (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Is a TM-241 ready for 9k6???

Rodrigo E. Rodriguez R. - CE6NUG <rod@rdc.cl> wrote:
>well... I guess subject says it all.
>Does anyone knows if TM-241 works fine at 9k6??

It works, but not "fine".

Rob
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Date: 30 Sep 1999 11:20:36 GMT
From: pmarkham@newsguy.com (pmarkham)
Subject: Let's look at real numbers for TNC software sales

mchughes@NOSPAM.netnitco.net (Mike Hughes) wrote in
<7suua6$2lr$1@hyperion.nitco.com>:

>
>In contrast, LLLids take traffic intended for amateur radio and relay it via
a
>completely different network that has absolutely nothing to do with amateur
>radio.

The "intended for amateur radio" is a pure fabrication

It was pointed out before, that as long as the amateur radio packet network
had
no economical commercial alternative to the average ham, radio was the way to
go. I didn't buy my first tnc and vhf radio and invest a piece of my life into
making it work because I was enamoured of the technical aspects of the mode. I
did it because I wanted the value in the communications products such as
bulletins, for sale, files, news, dxcluster, etc. that I could not obtain by a
more economical commercial means. I know, as a fact, that most individuals
that
used the amateur radio packet network, in my part of the country, did so as
consumers of information and to communicate, and not for a technical high.
They
did not care where the data came from or what means were used to get it to
their radio. They just wanted the system to work, ie. deliver the data as fast
and reliably as possible. Most amateur radio types are still more interested
in
the communication product of radio than the technical aspects, exactly the
same
as most users of the internet.


>As a result, our radio-based forwarding network is dying.  And for every node
>that goes off the air, there's another amateur frequency that isn't being
>used, and another disillusioned ex-nodeop who probably won't want to do it
>again,even for some great new application.  As someone who recently bemoaned
>the fact that much of our spectrum goes unused, and stressed the need to "use
>it or lose it", surely you can see that this isn't a good thing for amateur
>radio.
>

It is not a "good thing" for amateur radio, but having a packet network is not
necessarily a good thing either. The packet network has died due to the
consequences of the evolution of technology and the priorities of its human
users. If the amateur radio community cared enough, they would maintain and
use
the amateur radio PBBS/NTS/Whatever. Obviously, they do not care, ergo, it
dies. The amateur radio packet network is using rf spectrum for an "elite"
few,
relative to the total population of the US lined up for cheap personal
communications devices and services. The packet PBBS/NTS/Whatever is an
insignificant argument in the face of "deregulation" and commercial pressure.

A LLLid "law", as proposed, is not going to bring me or others back to packet
radio.

Contrived arguments, magical incantations, mantras, etc. will not bring back
an
amateur radio data network to many hams. Motivation, technogy and money might
do it.

>
>73, Mike - KG9HF
>
>
>


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Eschew obfuscation.
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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 14:25:35 -0700
From: "Hank Oredson" <horedson@att.net>
Subject: Let's look at real numbers for TNC software sales

pmarkham <pmarkham@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:36433.3060258178F2pmarkhamnewsguycom@208.134.253.187...
> mchughes@NOSPAM.netnitco.net (Mike Hughes) wrote in
> <7suua6$2lr$1@hyperion.nitco.com>:
>
> >
> >In contrast, LLLids take traffic intended for amateur radio and relay it
via a
> >completely different network that has absolutely nothing to do with
amateur
> >radio.
>
> The "intended for amateur radio" is a pure fabrication

You, sir, are an idiot.

When I send traffic via ham radio, I intend it to go via ham radio.
Thus "intended" above.

Perhaps you are unfamiliar with American English.
Thus this minor correction to your reading of what I wrote.

I "intend", the Land Line Lids interfere with that intention.






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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 18:02:43 -0400
From: Don <dnelsch@neo.rr.com>
Subject: Let's look at real numbers for TNC software sales

Hank does intend for his messages to go via ham radio.  But when they arrive


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