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> What? We desparately need to find new applications, but . . .Charlie
wants
> us to stop the application mantra.
Oh, just as long as you quit using it as a lame excuse for doing anything, I
suppose it's allright to chant it to yourself, if you feel you must.
Of course, if I ever saw any evidence that a lack of new applications really
was a sticking point, I might feel differently.
Right now, it's just a rather lame excuse for sitting on your hands, and
when you parrot this mantra you not only discourage yourself, but others as
well.
My feeling is that the need for new applications was so desperate, somebody
would have a clue as to what purpose these new applications might serve.
The fact that everyone universally draws a blank as to what function these
new applications might serve does not indicate a desperate need for them.
We've got new applications out the wazoo, especially for tcpip... Many more
than are currently being used. Nobody is using them, again indicating that
the need is somewhat less than desperate.
I don't have anything against new applications. I do have something against
excusing a lack of progress and discouraging those who would with a
comforting lie. - And the "applications mantra" is just that.
Don't agree? Trot out your facts. Not opinions. Not more "mantras"...
Facts, please.
--
Charles Brabham, N5PVL
N5PVL @ N5PVL.#NTX.TX.USA.NOAM
http://www.texoma.net/~n5pvl
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 06:09:00 -0700
From: k2ul <ostroyNOosSPAM@att.net.invalid>
Subject: My 2 cents on radio/internet/A-types/B-types
Yup, the ARRL does offer award certificates for sysops who
provide transport for NTS traffic. My numbers for K2UL-4
are listed in the SNJ column in QST every month. The only
requirement is that it must be done over radio. There is
also a separate total for my personal handling of messages
on CW/SSB/FM. I will admit that I am not at the leading
edge of digital technology, and I don't much care. I
prefer to spend my time enjoying ham radio, rather than
engage in the pitiful name-calling which seems to sprout up
here so often.
Dan
In article <7sc17l$b3b$1@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>, "Hank
Oredson" <horedson@att.net> wrote:
> Rob Janssen <nomail@pe1chl.demon.nl> wrote in message
> news:slrn7uh5rn.vgb.nomail@linux.pe1chl.ampr.org...
> > Hank Oredson <horedson@att.net> wrote:
> >
> > >If you think hams should get awards for posting CQ
> bulletins
> > >and collecting responses, my only comment is that I
> GET THE
> > >AWARD TOO because my station did the actual
> transmitting
> > >on ham radio. That internet stuff ain't ham radio
> ... <grin>.
> >
> > Who said you wouldn't get the award too?
> >
> > An award for people who made an effort to let other
> people enjoy
> > some service would probably be good idea.
> >
> > (of course not demanded by that amateur himself, but
> granted to him
> > by others who appreciate the service)
> In the US National Traffic System, awards are given to
> the stations
> that relay messages within that system. From time to
> time I remember
> to send in my traffic counts. Even though I don't
> actually do anything
> myself (the computers do the work) I get one of those
> awards
> every now and then. Others send and deliver the
> messages, I just
> let 'em use my gear to move the traffic where it is
> going.
> --
> ... Hank
> http://horedson.home.att.net
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 00:43:02 GMT
From: nw7us@hfradio.removethispart.org (Tomas - NW7US)
Subject: Need free webspace for Ham/SWL/Scanner Page?
Want to have a Ham radio or SWL Web Page, for free? Without floating
ads and other popup banner windows, etc.?
I am offering free web space for Shortwave, Scanner, and Ham Radio hobbiests.
Please come and visit http://hfradio.org - there is a link to the sign-up
page. There are a few already active with their sites, which you can also
see from the listing page.
There is a lot of other things at the site, as well. But if you are looking
for a great place to mirror your site, or to have your main site, consider
http://hfradio.org.
73!
(10 meters is starting to show signs of activity. You can find me there
often)
--
: World-Wide Communications via Amateur Radio : 122.93W : 47.67N :
: 10x56526 : CW/SSB - DX hunter : Brinnon, WA : Code Warrior #60 :
: visit http://hfradio.org/ :
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 01:53:56 +0100
From: "Gary" <gary@macrologic.prestel.co.uk>
Subject: new to this group.
Hi all,
quite a while ago, before the internet was readily available, I heard about
packet radio, back then I had an amiga 500 for a computer, and used the C.B.
for yakking to mates across town,
and at one time a few of us were actually considering trying to use packet
over the cb..<gasp>, I was young back then.....please forgive me <im a
little older now..and have a little more sense, I think>.....
we never went through with it though...we couldn't afford the kits to build
the modem!!(or what ever it was called...I can't remember now.)
Any way, with the phone bill getting bigger every quarter,
and me spending a lot of time travelling in my camper away from a land line
(i'm not even going to think about using the mobile phone), I wanted to find
a cheap way of keeping in contact with people on various news groups, so
here's my question,
what is the state of packet radio now?
I have read a few threads about "net gateways"..what's that all about,
basically I want to know if it is possible to access internet news groups,
using packet radio...
if it is possible, what are the restrictions...and costs, I know I need to
sit an exam...have they brought in the restricted licence for data comms.
only..I.e certain frequency's, no voice transmissions etc???
Thanx for any help...Gary
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 15:41:52 GMT
From: marsgal42@hotmail.com
Subject: Packet modems
In article <37ED21AC.167E@eece.maine.edu>,
Shawn Upton <supton@eece.maine.edu> wrote:
> Ok, so I can use a modem if I have the software, or a dedicated TNC
for
> packet. What would be the lowest cost way of getting into packet
then?
> I would like to eventually get into packet operation, but I fear that
> that won't happen until I'm a bit richer--either I pay $120~150 for
the
> TNC (and use freebie software) or pay something similar for software
> that will already use my modem. (At least I suspect it would be
similar
> priced.)
There are a couple of really cheap ways to get on packet
(I'm a student too... :-). If your computer has a sound
card use something like FlexNet with its sound card drivers.
Or use the sound modem support under Linux. The cheapest
sound card will record everything there is to record from
a communications-grade audio channel.
You can also go for the Baycom/Poor Man's Packet approach,
which uses a hardware modem and does all the TNC stuff in
software. I've seen this work on an XT; the sound card stuff
needs a 486 or better (I've used it on a 486/66).
The classic TCM3105 modem chip is long obsolete but is
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