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73 DE Charles Brabham, N5PVL
N5PVL @ N5PVL.#NTX.TX.USA.NOAM
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Date: Monday, 27 Sep 1999 17:08:11 -0600
From: "CHOW Yik" <ychow@asdf.net>
Subject: Business Jargon 60732

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Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 19:56:27 -0700
From: "Cathryn Mataga" <cathryn@junglevision.com>
Subject: Caldera Linux 2.3 and AX.25

Thomas Talley wrote in message ...
>I am attempting to setup Caldera Linux 2.3 to support Amateur Radio AX.25
>via KISS TNC interface.
>
>The "HOW-TO" document that comes with the Linux software is from 1997 and
>does not relate to the 2.2 kernel.
>
>I am able to "load" the "AX.25 Module" via the "kernel modules" application,
>but what now? The old documentation refers to a /etc/ax25 directory that
>does not exist.

Yeah, the default in some versions of the axutils is to put stuff in
/usr/local/etc/ax25
rather than /etc/ax25.  Some people put links in between the two directories
just to be sure.

If you compiled ax25-tools and libax25, you should be able to.
1.  Make sure you're really running the right kernel.  Sounds like you have
done this okay.
2.  Compile or install the libax25 and ax25-tools and all that stuff.
3.  Use Minicom, to talk to your TNC and set it to KISS mode.
4.  Make an axports file -- like it says.
5   Run kissattach.  Make sure to specify an ip address (man kissattach should
help)
6.  Run kissparms to setup your TNC stuff like txdelay (Do a man kissparms)
7.  Try doing a 'call [device] ke6i' or something, to see if the TNC lights up
and
transmits.  If that happens, it's probably working.

Do not panic.  If it were me, I'd stick with Caldera, if that's what you
already
have.  I don't think moving to Redhat will make it any easier.  (Though RedHat
has a nice rpm for running nntp, which I like a lot.  Not sure about Caldera.)


>
>So where is the latest information? Should I switch to Redhat?


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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 03:54:42 -0500
From: "Charles Brabham" <n5pvl@texoma.net>
Subject: Double Posts!

I'm not sure yet how some of my posts are being sent twice. I'll be trying
to track the problem down and fix it.
--

Charles Brabham, N5PVL
N5PVL @ N5PVL.#NTX.TX.USA.NOAM
http://www.texoma.net/~n5pvl



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Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 20:20:13 -0700
From: "Hank Oredson" <horedson@att.net>
Subject: Kinda spooky - Bandwidth to burn . . .

Peter O. Brackett <ab4bc@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:7smeih$rkg@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com...
> Folks, all day today I tuned up and down the 7 amateur radio bands between
> 70 cm and 24 GHz.
>
> It was kinda spooky, not a single station was heard!
>
> And . . .  shhhhhh don't tell anyone, but we have bandwidth to burn up
> there.
>
> Enumerated as follows . . . .
>
> Bandwidth to burn . . .
>
> Between 70 cm and 24 GHz, amateur radio in the USA has available 7 bands
as
> follows:
>
> 1.) 902 - 928 MHz  6 MHz
> 2.) 1240 - 1300 MHz  10 MHz
> 3.) 2300 - 2310 MHz  10 MHz
> 4.) 2390 - 2450 MHz  60 MHz
> 5.) 3300 - 3500 MHz  200 MHz
> 6.) 5650 - 5925 MHz  275 MHz
> 7.) 10000 - 10500 MHz 500 MHz
>
> Total 7 bands, grand total available bandwidth 1111 MHz.
>
> Wow . . .  1.111  GHz is ours for the taking, heck we already have it.
>
> But . . .  what are we doing with it?  NOTHING.
>
> What a great place to make broad band access networks for amateur radio
for
> all of those new nifty broad band applications.
>
> Comments, thoughts?

Cost and availability of equipment ... chicken/egg problem.

That 56k link I costed out earlier in the thread jumps by
about $100 to $200 per end when placed on 1240 instead of 440.

If you tune the next three lower frequency bands here,
you get almost the same result. A vast wasteland.

Ditto for most of the HF bands most of the time.

10M makes a good troposcatter band for 1200 baud links ...


--

   ...  Hank

http://horedson.home.att.net



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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 12:14:44 -0500
From: "Peter O. Brackett" <ab4bc@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Kinda spooky - Bandwidth to burn . . .

Rob:

Well the other wonderful about these bands is that those oceans of Hz (1,111
MHz) available to us can be re-used over and over again by simple
spatial/geographic re-use.

So if you get off the TV realy paths, and watch the geography and
interference then you can use those bands anyway.

And so . . . in practice we have available to us much more than the simple
1,111 MHz!  We have that 1,111 MHz bandwidth multiplied by the number of
geographically separate "non-interference cells" that we choose to deploy.

Wow, talk about bandwidth to burn.

And we amateurs are sitting on our old 2 m and 70 cm allotments and letting
the commercial guys do all the innovation in this broadband area.

What happened to the old ham radio spirit of pioneering new areas for radio
and its' applications?

Many of us seem obsessed with moving backwards into the past and are missing
all of the wonderful opportunities in the future.

How can we hams best exploit the oceans of bandwidth available to us?

What we need to learn to do is to "waste" some of that bandwidth and trade
that for other factors/capabilities that we want/need. . .

Comments, thoughts?

    Peter  AB4BC


Rob Janssen <nomail@pe1chl.demon.nl> wrote in message
news:slrn7uu9h0.a19.nomail@linux.pe1chl.ampr.org...
> Paul Keinanen <keinanen@sci.fi> wrote:
> >The real value of very broad microwave allocations is that it allows
> >experimenting with simple gear such as free running Gunnplexers,
> >without the risk of running out of the band e.g. in extreme
> >temperatures. Apart from that, I do not see a need for more than 100
> >Mhz allocations on a single band, realistically speaking, we do not
> >have enough genuine data to move around, even if we are talking about
> >live video.
>
> Well, over here (Netherlands) the 3cm band is quite densely filled with FM
> ATV relays located at high sites.  They have different output frequencies
> and many are equipped with receivers that are tuned to other relays.
> They usually have picture-in-picture systems (4 or 16 pictures) that
> display an overview of activity on several relays.  One or more active
> contributors to the relay often have a private link to it.
>
> This of course requires several different channels, wide enough to
> accomodate an FM ATV signal.  While the official standard is "15 MHz
> bandwidth", for practical reasons these relays use the satellite-TV
> standard of 27 MHz bandwidth.
>
> I have no exact bandplan of these relays, but they certainly use more
> than 100 MHz of the 500 MHz-wide band.
>
> Rob
> --
>
+----------------------------------+--------------------------------------+
> | Rob Janssen     pe1chl@amsat.org | WWWhome: http://www.pe1chl.demon.nl/


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