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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 14:33:47 -0400
From: Shawn Upton <supton@eece.maine.edu>
Subject: Packet modems
What is a packet modem? I see them for sale, but what are they really?
I thought one only need a tnc inbetween the computer (going into a
serial port) and the radio. Or is it a device to bypass the tnc, and do
all the work in software?
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Shawn Upton
Electrical Engineering Student
University of Maine at Orono
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mail: supton@eece.maine.edu
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 21:12:55 GMT
From: wb4ofn@rocketmail.com (Russell Hall)
Subject: PK-232MBX COM port info
Greetings all,
Recently I had no good luck getting my desktop PC to "see" my
PK-232MBX on COM 2 using Windows 95. Today I brought my old 386/SX20
(with its DOS 6.22 and Windows 3.1 software) out of storage.
I connected my 'MBX to the COM 2 port on the 386 PC, installed
Lan-Link 2.34 and, after the necessary power-down/power-up with the
'MBX I had it running on the first try. Perhaps this info is old news
to some, but to those who (like me) have been unable to get their
PK-232s to run under Win95, the info may be useful.
Does anyone yet know of a "fix" that will make the PK-232 run
correctly using Windows 95? I've seen various posts with various
suggestions for com port parameters, yet everything I've tried has
yielded unsuccessful results. In any event, I'm glad I kept my old 386
PC. I can and have used the PSK31 and Blaster Teletype software with
my sound card, but the PK-232MBX/Win95 problem is perplexing.
73,
Russell Hall WB4OFN
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 20:48:53 -0400
From: Dave <floydboyz@hotmail.com>
Subject: right news group ?
Is this the right news group for this guestion? I want to re-broadcast
the weekly
program: This Week In Amature Radio. Now the question is:
can I feed the audio out from my sound card directly into the htx-202? I
figure i can keep the HT keyed up tru my tnc,my only other problem would
be my ht getting warm being keyed up for 10 minutes. Or their any other
ideas ?
tnx de dave-n2rhl
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 09:13:35 -0500
From: "Peter O. Brackett" <ab4bc@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: The Aplication Mantra
Hank:
Nope, God love him, his heart is in the right place, but Charles is mostly
WRONG!
He uses the Continental European model to beat us over the head with and
tells us we must make a network more like theirs.
Problem is that Charles is sadly mis-informed and passes on that
mis-information about the Continental European situation. Charles is still
living in the past and so are the Europeans when it comes to Telecom reform
and deregulation. The only reason the Continental European hams still
persist with their packet networks is because Internet access is either
completely unavailable or prohibitively expensive. And . . .that will
change like it did in America over the next few years as the Continentals
liberalize and deregulate their telecoms.
Poor Charles, he keeps living in the past and using examples of outdated
European economic situations to try to browbeat his Type A's into becoming
Type B's. Well that is an invitaion to disaster for Amateur Packet Radio.
It is a lemming like march into the sea of obscurity!
The brave new future for ham packet and one which the Continental Europeans
will embrace when the cold water of competition gets thrown on to their
little protected packet ghetto, is complementary with the Internet and
tcp/ip not set against it! ! !
Face it, the old ways of trying to preserve artificially high telecom prices
as the Continental Europeans are now trying to desperately hold onto, are
simply an anachronism that has been economically discredited by the modern
American economic commerce engine!
What we should be doing over here in Amateur Packet Radio is setting the
direction for the future. Find a model for ham radio packet that
complements, not tries to compete with the Internet!
Thoughts, discussion?
Peter AB4BC
Hank Oredson <horedson@att.net> wrote in message
news:7sc0ug$fd0$1@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net...
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>
> > Now if only we could get Charlie Brabbam to stop bitching and get off
his
> > ass and do some "new think" and stop spreading misinformation and half
> > truths, then we could just begin to get somewhere!
>
> I see a problem here: Charles is mainly right.
>
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Date: 23 Sep 1999 16:53:45 GMT
From: "Eric S. Johansson" <esj@harvee.billerica.ma.us>
Subject: The Aplication Mantra
Hank Oredson <horedson@att.net> wrote:
> How to get things moving?
> Needs volunteers.
I'm perfectly willing to lay down a couple of hundred dollars for a
high-speed radio link. I would gladly dedicate one of my spare
systems as a (web/ftp/...) server with accounts for anybody who asked.
My question is: would anybody use it and for what?
I guess this is my way of saying that packet radio is dying from a
lack of interesting applications. I'll help only if I can get enough
bandwidth to do something interesting (eg > 128kbits/second).
--- eric
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Date: 23 Sep 1999 16:35:43 GMT
From: "Eric S. Johansson" <esj@harvee.billerica.ma.us>
Subject: The Aplication Mantra
Charles Brabham <n5pvl@texoma.net> wrote:
> Notice how he thinks the rules should MOST PARTICULARLY be dropped for
> digital networking?
> Of course, we all know as hams that using Radio and following the rules are
> not as important to us as when handling digital info as it is for analog
> info.
> As long as it's digital, anything goes, right? Ham Radio kiddie-porn,
> anybody?
> Sorry, but I consider anyone who would contemplate undermining the entire
> amateur radio service in order to facilitate a desire to get "freebee
> Internet access" as being somewhat less than human.
I suggest backing up and re-reading the original post. There was
nothing in there that suggested turning amateur radio into: citizens
band, kiddie-porn transport, or freebie Internet access. there was only
the reasonable suggestion of thinking about eliminating content
restrictions when using amateur radio as the transport.
personally, I am very much in favor of this idea. As long as you keep
in place the current restrictions on commercial activity, we should be
reasonably protected from commercial entities using the amateur bands.
I see the primary advantage of this kind of rule change is to generate
enough interest in radio based networks because there would be
something interesting to do with them (i.e. connect to the Internet).
There are also a whole bunch of social side effects when a populous
controlled service exists simultaneously with a corporately controlled
To be continued in digest: hd_99_240H
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