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TO: TRAINS @WW
FR: VE3WBZ
DT: Monday,February 21st.,2011 @0850hrs EST
Hello Warren and all Train buffs ... BTW...no idea who "all"
is other then, this posting escaping to the Internet for
googling later ... and still trying to find "Everyone" or
"Everbody" as they are being used to make these claims or
fact in postings gone passed and into the trash...like
a newpaper.
<< Quoting KB2VXA to TRAINS @ WW >>
> That was rather nice of him and I hope he's following, it sure
> took a lot of tooth pulling to get you to say Puffing Billy was
> just the name she gave to a train she rode. (;->)
"Puffy Billy" seems to be a type, so obviously she didn't ride
the original in 1814 or thereafter. I think the last run for
it was 1862, and I really have no idea, if it was the coal
route to the port for shipment, or passengers. The primary
interest in those days was coal trains, and locomotives that
could do thejob.
> That in itself is interesting because the train already had a name
> and so did the engine as the English are fond of naming things.
The engine has a name. I am sure she mean the engine combined with
the carriages, etc it pulled. The English , are not the only
ones to name their machines, look at the Americans and during the
war, naming their aircraft, and well there are some interesting
designs and names on the sides of those Bombers.
> Funny how a certain A4 Pacific came to be the fastest steam
> locomotive in the world... Mallard? I had no idea ducks were fast
> but with a couple hundred pounds of steam up the quacker anything
> can happen. (;->)
Somewhere I have the photo of the fourth bridge which joins England
to Scotland. The "Flying Scotsman" always comes to mind, and this
paint scheme of green....I seem o think "racing green".
> I'm not sure how coal gets from the mine to the colliery even if
> it doesn't have to go far, in any case ponies and mules are history.
> What I do know is first it goes through the breaker and then graded
> through different sized screens, then loaded into hopper cars at
> the tipple where trains known as coal drags haul it off to market.
Not being a student of coal mining in 1800s, or even today. No idea
only a guess as supplied by ...in 1804 ., Trevithick's machine,
manned or otherwise, took the coal from the ponys from the mine
went a shor distance to what? Maybe refining or breaking it down
or direct to the engines you call the "coal drags"...where the
"Puffing Billy" of 1813 came in to take it over to the marketplace
or port to be shipped elsewhere. Only a guess.
> That reminds me of the old days when some things didn't use graded
> coal but rather everything from the mines mixed from basketball
> sized chunks to powder. Steamships were stoked with the stuff since
> those huge boilers ate anything (including radium if you remember
> Sky City in the old Flasdh Gordon serials) and I remember seeing the
> stuff where dredge tailings mixed with discarded clam shells from the
> processor on the river were dumped. No problem figuring out the clam
> shells but
The old engine and train picture I sent you from here, burns anything
too...hahahaha...but in a descriptive session, we found out that the
engine coal comes from Pennslvania because it is of a better grade.
The also mentioned the boiler cleaning that went on...long time
project and replaced boiler pipes etc ... so for those years it
is an interesting machine....the only thing missing was a "name"
just that cold feeling "number". First thing tourists get when
they come here, is these drab border people... they do remind me
of the KGB, and Boris....hahahahaha.
> I have no idea where those huge blocks of old waterlogged coal
> originally came from.
Last night, I read about early American efforts for steamboats
and I wonder if that coal you found, is from one of those early
steamships or mabe during the cicil war some floated or bounced
along the bottom from an engagement at sea ?
ooooh a chance to throw in the name of John Fitch. He came
before "Fulton's Follies".
> No problem getting away from WIND, this is another subject now.
> I know what you mean, old, abandoned RR RoW everywhere has become
> everything from highways to walkways, we call it rails to trails
> and it's a good thing.
Ah interesting name.... we dub'em Greenbelts.
> I'd much rather have miles of scenic trails to walk and ride bikes
> on than rusty rotted tracks, not all of them were railroads all at
> the same time so we really didn't lose as much as one may think
> and we don't need it all back either. What I'd like to see however
> are a few more tramways powered by wind and hydro rather than
> stinky Diesel, I'm not a greenie but common sense tells me non
> polluting public transport is far better than having our cities
> called the big smoke.
I realize too that many systems were in the US, more then here, and
where they have mixed the old lines with the new, they have sold off
railway lines that could have gone back to hydro ...radials, or used
track for both services...GO commute in the mornings etc.
A home on our street is actually the old terminal station for the radial
cars that came direct from Toronto as I mentioned previous. Sorry
I don't have my camera, as Maria is using it in BRASIL <BRAZIL>
and well some nice pictures < I wish she had taken the camcorder >.
> Old TV towers with rotating blue plastic barrel halves?
> Give Red Green a roll of duct tape and let him at it, he'll be
> happier than a pig in a waller!
>
> 73 de Warren
>
> Station powered by JCP&L atomic energy, operator powered by natural gas.
An Atomic powered station? Why not the engine....what a blast!
Operator powered by gas...but a standby if the later doesn't wanna
work....which mmm might be ineresting as a snowmelter....hahahhaha
> Message timed by NIST: 21:10 on 2011-Feb-20 GMT
>
> [End of Message #85140 from KB2VXA]
Alast .... my head bent low ... The Red Green Show is no longer.
< "collecive" =---> "AAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh " ! >
I have to stop by that guy's home and check it out.
Last night an email...a local offered me <2> Sonar FS23s all in boxes
mannuals and wireing for AC and mobile DC ...and <1> Sonar J23.
aaah another topic.... well looks like I am done.
73 Pete VE3WBZ
PS: When I moved here and commuted to Toronto for work...the big smoke
description fitted the city..all of them...in the AM...there was
a donut of smog around the CN Tower...like from a comedy...I can
only imagine the size of that donut later on in the evening...eeeek
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