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VE3WBZ > TRAINS 20.02.11 06:41l 76 Lines 2943 Bytes #999 (0) @ WW
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From: VE3WBZ@VA3BAL.#SCON.ON.CAN.NOAM
To : TRAINS@WW
TO: TRAINS @WW
FR: VE3WBZ
DT: Saturday,February 19th.,2011 @ 1207hrs EST
Hello Warren and others...on the subject of early train engines;
<< Quoting KB2VXA to TRAINS @WW >>
> Going back over those early boilers and such makes me wonder
> just what qualifies as a locomotive.
Exactly. There seems to be first the need to develop a
power plant. The next step is what to apply it too ... Boats
Carriages or Railway. The earliest applications seem to be
carriages and then that 1600s trike-bike was also intersting
but I was also concentrating on Train engines or locomotive.
> Hmmm, coal smoke, hot oil and steam are gone but not forgotten
> even if here in the East a coal strike in 1957 put an earlier
> end to it than modernization elsewhere.
Other strikes...also helped the process along..
> A steam locomotive in Welsh coal mines? Possible, but I think
> you're confusing them, smaller "fireless cookers" were used
> underground and around hazardous atmospheres. Basic pressure
> vessels with drivers they were limited but without fires at
> least they didn't cause explosions.
Actually, the TREVITHICK model of 1804 was used above ground
at the welsh coal mines. I was looking at a site near where
we lived, and ..wow here was one of them... pulling people
around a interesting track layout. < 1804> There is also
a demo at the coal mine onlky this time the operator is onbaord.
One interesting picture is from 1850 ... and shows what things look
like after a boiler explodes.....mmmm... scary stuff.
> You mentioned Puffing Billy, he's Australian and hauls tourists
> around Queensland unless I'm mistaken. Don't look now but he's
> not the original, that one works the colliery at Beemish Museum UK
> and is much older. Funny how when you have a hobby like trains you
> learn a new bit of history nearly every day.
My Aunt in Yorkshire, used to draw pictures of the Puffing Billie
in UK ... and hanks to the site..I see there is more of them..so
I guess a model and popular.
> Now these days I live but one block from the New Jersey Transit tracks
> and hear them go by all day and well into the night. Used to be the sound
> of a train had me running to see what it was but that was years ago and
> the Pennsylvania RR with mixed passenger and freight and all sorts of
> locomotives. Now they're all Alstom double deck coaches and P42AC
> locomotives, on a commuter line if you've seen one you've seen them all.
> (;->)
>
> 73 de Warren
>
> [End of Message #84960 from KB2VXA]
ES..I can relate to that ... when I see the tracks near us, it
used to be interesting rolling stock and a real engine...now it
looks like a streetcar or something jumped the tracks on the railway
tracks, and is using them....Even the warning they sound is different.
Ok...plow just went thru...so goota work...oh dear.
toot toot....see ou later.
73 Pete VE3WBZ
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