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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Findu Topo and Imagery (Tyson S.)
2. APRS Wiki vandalism (Tom Russo)
3. Re: APRS Wiki vandalism (Tom Russo)
4. Re: APRS Wiki vandalism (scott_at_opentrac.org)
5. Re: APRS Wiki vandalism (Tapio Sokura)
6. Info on the UP Steam Train 844 / 3985 (rcluster_at_comcast.net)
7. RE: APRS Wiki vandalism (Andrew Rich)
8. RE: Re:FS - Mobile Wifi Stompbox (Dave Baxter)
9. RE: APRS units needed for Race June 3rd (Robert Bruninga)
10. RE: Objects on APRS (Robert Bruninga)
11. Symbols (Robbie, wa9inf)
12. Re: What settings for igate? (Curt, WE7U)
13. RE: What settings for igate? (Robert Bruninga)
14. RE: APRS Coverage in Key West (Robert Bruninga)
15. RE: Weather Alert Network on APRS (Robert Bruninga)
16. RE: Weather Alert Network on APRS (Michael J. Wolthuis)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 12:16:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Tyson S." <timbercutter_at_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Findu Topo and Imagery
Thanks Andy, I have not seen that link before. I was actually referring to
some of the maps that Findu uses though. They are the topographic and
aerial photos that get pulled from Terraserver and displayed on Findu. For
some reason they stopped working a few months back and was just curious if
there are any plans to fix them.
Thanks.
--- Andy Pritchard <apritch_at_blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>Try
>
>http://www.mountainlake.k12.mn.us/ham/aprs/
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Tyson S." <timbercutter_at_yahoo.com>
>To: <aprssig_at_lists.tapr.org>
>Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 4:40 PM
>Subject: [aprssig] Findu Topo and Imagery
>
>>I may have missed some exchange of emails about the subject recently if
>>this has all ready been discussed, have not been around the Internet as
>>much as usual, but I have noticed for the last few months the topo maps
>>and the aerial images do not work on the Findu site. The error message
>>says "Geo file not found"
>>
>>Tyson - N7ZMR
>>Southern Oregon
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 14:23:23 -0600
From: Tom Russo <russo_at_bogodyn.org>
Subject: [aprssig] APRS Wiki vandalism
The APRS wiki at http://info.aprs.net/ appears to have been the victim of
some hit-and-run script vandalism on 19 April 2007.
I've corrected a few of the utterly trivial changes (random removal of plus
signs), but some pages have had almost all of their content removed, often
everything following the first ampersand in the text:
Thu, 19 Apr 2007:
(22:08 Pacific Daylight Time) [history] - APRS Rj3J0r
(21:54 Pacific Daylight Time) [history] - Frequencies Zn9P7y
(21:53 Pacific Daylight Time) [history] - Paths JbfXab
(11:35 Pacific Daylight Time) [history] - ARHAB GzhQjb
(10:59 Pacific Daylight Time) [history] - APRS2ATM JecJge
Unfortunately, the software that's running the wiki doesn't provide a simple
revert mechanism that I can see, so fixing these pages to contain the useful
information that used to be on them is tedious.
The Xastir wiki at http://www.xastir.org/ was also vandalized in April a few
days earlier in much the same way (random missing plus signs and all text
deleted after an ampersand) albeit more aggressively with dozens of vandalism
events over the span of a few days --- leading me to suspect some kind of
automated script by some folks with too much time on their hands. We had to
lock down that wiki to restrict edit privileges.
If anyone has the energy to fix up the broken pages, or point out a way that
"Wikka Wakka Wiki" can be told to revert to previous versions of a page to
undo these edits, have at it.
--
Tom Russo KM5VY SAR502 DM64ux http://www.swcp.com/~russo/
Tijeras, NM QRPL#1592 K2#398 SOC#236 AHTB#1 http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?DDTNM
"And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is
one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh,
oooh, the sky is the limit!" --- The Tick
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 14:27:18 -0600
From: Tom Russo <russo_at_bogodyn.org>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] APRS Wiki vandalism
On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 02:23:23PM -0600, we recorded a bogon-computron
collision of the <russo_at_bogodyn.org> flavor, containing:
[Wiki vandalism]
>
>Unfortunately, the software that's running the wiki doesn't provide a simple
>revert mechanism that I can see, so fixing these pages to contain the useful
>information that used to be on them is tedious.
[...]
>
>If anyone has the energy to fix up the broken pages, or point out a way that
>"Wikka Wakka Wiki" can be told to revert to previous versions of a page to
>undo these edits, have at it.
I found the help file at the Wikka Wakka Wiki home page that explained how
to do it, and I'm now trying to revert the vandalized pages.
Users of this wiki might want to keep their eye on their favorite pages to
make sure this sort of thing doesn't come back.
--
Tom Russo KM5VY SAR502 DM64ux http://www.swcp.com/~russo/
Tijeras, NM QRPL#1592 K2#398 SOC#236 AHTB#1 http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?DDTNM
"And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is
one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh,
oooh, the sky is the limit!" --- The Tick
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 13:32:21 -0700
From: scott_at_opentrac.org
Subject: Re: [aprssig] APRS Wiki vandalism
What would everyone think of migrating to MediaWiki if I can get it up and
running? I don't know if there's any automated content migration utility -
it might take a lot of cut-and-paste.
Scott
N1VG
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 00:40:52 +0300
From: Tapio Sokura <oh2kku_at_iki.fi>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] APRS Wiki vandalism
Tom Russo wrote:
>The APRS wiki at http://info.aprs.net/ appears to have been the victim of
>some hit-and-run script vandalism on 19 April 2007.
Just about any wiki that allows editing without login and/or editing with a
login that doesn't have to be pre-approved by the administrators, will
sooner or later be vandalized. It's just a matter of those vandalbots
finding the wiki. And usually they come back again later, with an
ever-decreasing interval. After a while, the wiki might be in constant
motion due to vandalbots. After you fix/revert one page, you notice that
two other pages have been vandalized while you were reverting the previous
page.. it's a neverending swamp, unfortunately.
Tapio
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 23:42:55 +0000
From: rcluster_at_comcast.net
Subject: [aprssig] Info on the UP Steam Train 844 / 3985
The upcoming Pacific Northwest excursion will be pulled by UP 844 this
time, a 4-8-4 locomotive (same wheel arrangement as the SP 4449). They have
other trips planned this year also, some using the UP 3985 Challenger steam
engine. Thanks to Curt, WE7U, and the UP RR we have the chance to keep tabs
on the UP steam trips, regardless of which engine they are using.
One of the passenger cars in the train is fitted with a GPS receiver that
sends the trains position and speed to the UP, which they use to update the
following web page:
Curt's script pulls the info from this page, reformats it to the correct
object format for APRS and injects it into the Firenet and APRS-IS data
streams at 10 minute intervals.
You can track it on your APRS maps if you include o/STEAM in your filter
string. If you are an iGate, you can gate this object to RF for mobile
stations to use. I'll be doing that when the trip actually starts on May
3rd. If there is anyone in the Portland, OR and the Seattle/Tacoma, WA area
that would gate out this object also it would be appreciated (by me at
least......I'll be out taking pictures again).
Basic route is Wyoming, Idaho, Oregon, Washington, and then return via the
same route. It will pick up the SP 4449 Daylight Steam engine in Portland,
OR for the run to Seattle and back. Big steam operations, let alone double
headed steam is pretty rare these days. If you're anywhere close to the
route, try to go experience it.
Detailed schedule is here:
73.....Ron.....AC7TK
(-9 Mobile, -7 hiking (D7),
-2 Wx, -1 Work....Sheesh)
UI-View32 iGate, Wx & WIDE1 digi
Eugene, OR
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 18:08:08 +1000
From: "Andrew Rich" <vk4tec_at_people.net.au>
Subject: RE: [aprssig] APRS Wiki vandalism
It gets so bad that I had a guest book that spammers were using for
advertising !
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 09:12:41 +0100
From: "Dave Baxter" <dave_at_emv.co.uk>
Subject: RE: [aprssig] Re:FS - Mobile Wifi Stompbox
Nice idea, website added to my list of ones to poke about later...
I've done the same sort of thing, with a 3G/GPRS data card, three wifi
laptops, and Windows ICS in the past. OK, not a true WiFi "Access Point",
but for what we needed at the time, it worked. Pity about the 3G/GPRS data
bill that eventualy hit the credit card though (one PC was trying to do
updates we found out later!) we don't get free cellular data at all over
hear, sadly.
Dave G0WBX.
PS: If anyone want's to know how to "Shut up" an XP machine, so that
only data you initiate, or have requested goes in/out the 3G/GPRS route
(or any network) let me know. It's not dificult, but it is fiddly.
However you can leave a live mobile data link up for hours with no cost
incured by unwanted updates, WGA, or other spurious traffic.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bernard Tyers
>Subject: Re: [aprssig] Re:FS - Mobile Wifi Stompbox
>
>Site back up:
>
>"A Stompbox is a home-brew WWAN (Wireless Wide Area Network) router.
>In more human terms, it's a compact little box that gets data
>from cellular towers and re-shares it for multiple computers to use.
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