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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:39:39 -0800 (PST)
From: J T <w0jrt_at_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] APRS+SA registration
It's now free (see http://www.tapr.org/~kh2z/aprsplus/) so hopefully Brent
can sent you a registration code by e-mail. His address is at the bottom
of that page. I think he monitors this SIG, too.
-Jerome, W0JRT
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:45:29 -0800 (PST)
From: kc9umr_at_freqradio.com
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Barcodes, D7 msgs and APRStt
i suppose the same thing is true for tracking vehicles, they do OK, but
the most asked questions on the voice channel are "how many cars are in
the stage" and "how many cars out of the stage?"
The nice thing about automating it with APRS or packet is that it will
free up the start person a little bit. they can more easily concentrate
on the task at hand.
>On 2/28/07, kc9umr_at_freqradio.com <kc9umr_at_freqradio.com> wrote:
>>I think having D7's and/or D700's at every checkpoint would be GREAT, the
>>problem is getting that many people with those radios. As it is, we often
>>run short of radio equipment, let along specialized equipment...
>
>Even though we are having all of this barcoding, RFID'ing, high tech
>tracking talk, don't forget that with proper training and radio
>technique, tracking runners can be easily, quickly and efficiently
>accomplished via voice communications. No specialized equipment
>required.
>
>--
>A.J. Farmer, AJ3U
>http://www.aj3u.com
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 06:58:57 +1000
From: Jack Chomley <radio_at_dodo.com.au>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Barcodes, D7 msgs and APRStt
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Personally, I thought good old packet radio would be the answer :-)
Jack, VK4JRC
At 03:37 PM 2/28/2007 -0500, you wrote:
>Even though we are having all of this barcoding, RFID'ing, high tech
>tracking talk, don't forget that with proper training and radio
>technique, tracking runners can be easily, quickly and efficiently
>accomplished via voice communications. No specialized equipment
>required.
>
>--
>A.J. Farmer, AJ3U
>http://www.aj3u.com
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 13:48:09 -0800
From: "Ray McKnight" <shortsheep_at_worldnet.att.net>
Subject: RE: [aprssig] barcodes, etc.
Well, the barcode units I have also have a version that is a long distance
scanner. They include a spot beam for aiming the scanner and can scan from
6 ft away. You don't think it's possible to hit a runner from 6 ft if you
had a few seconds to spot beam the target? You could make the barcode
as wide as the runner's sign, about 1 ft? Sounds like we need sniper
training for special event volunteers...
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:21:04 -0500
From: "A.J. Farmer (AJ3U)" <farmer.aj_at_gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Barcodes, D7 msgs and APRStt
On 2/28/07, Jack Chomley <radio_at_dodo.com.au> wrote:
>Personally, I thought good old packet radio would be the answer :-)
Yes, I am with you. I was responding to KC9UMR's comment that he wanted to
track everything *without* the use of a D7, D700, or any other "specialized
equipment". To me, "specialized equipment" pretty much rules out packet
all together. :-)
--
A.J. Farmer, AJ3U
http://www.aj3u.com
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:21:07 -0600
From: Jason Winningham <jdw_at_eng.uah.edu>
Subject: [aprssig] station capability flags
There was some discussion in the past few days about not knowing which
stations were acting as Igates. One thing that has always seemed missing
in the APRS protocol is a way to indicate station attributes. Selecting an
icon is quite restrictive. What if it's a digi with a weather station, or
emergency power, or an Igate, or all of the above? How you you indicate
more than one, without doing network traffic analysis?
In the absence of a dedicated field added to the protocol, it seems to me
we could get a very limited set of flags by using the TOCALL SSID bits. A
quick scan of my tnc log file didn't show any TOCALL addresses using an
SSID other than 0.
One approach would be using the 4 bits to flag the 4 most useful attributes
that may not be indicated by the station's icon.
Another method, more complex, would be to define 15 common sets of
attributes indicated by the non-zero SSID.
-Jason
kg4wsv
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:23:25 -0500
From: "A.J. Farmer (AJ3U)" <farmer.aj_at_gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Barcodes, D7 msgs and APRStt
On 2/28/07, kc9umr_at_freqradio.com <kc9umr_at_freqradio.com> wrote:
>The nice thing about automating it with APRS or packet is that it will
>free up the start person a little bit. they can more easily concentrate
>on the task at hand.
I agree 100%. I was just responding to your comment that you wanted
to track your specific event without the use of specialized equipment.
To me "specialized equipment" means all of the hardware we have been
discussing in this thread. Maybe I misunderstood what you meant...
--
A.J. Farmer, AJ3U
http://www.aj3u.com
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:28:07 -0500
From: "A.J. Farmer (AJ3U)" <farmer.aj_at_gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] barcodes, etc.
On 2/28/07, Ray McKnight <shortsheep_at_worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>Well, the barcode units I have also have a version that is a long distance
>scanner. They include a spot beam for aiming the scanner and can scan from
>6 ft away. You don't think it's possible to hit a runner from 6 ft if you
Sounds cool. But how much $$$ for one of those? :-)
That just sparked an idea. What about those "lazer tag" games that
were popular back in the 80's? How do those work? Do they have
unique ID's for each unit or are they just blanket transmit/receive?
Now that would be a great way to check runners in! :-)
--
A.J. Farmer, AJ3U
http://www.aj3u.com
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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:35:46 -0800 (PST)
From: Chris Rose <kb8uih_at_sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Need Ideas
There is a train that makes the trip up the mountain and an amateur
repeater on top (unless something has happened to them) that would make
communications and taking equipment up easier than wearing out a car. Does
anyone have the authority to allow the train to be used to carry hams and
their gear up and down?
Chris
KB8UIH
----- Original Message ----
>From: Dave Sloan <desloan_at_earthlink.net>
>To: TAPR APRS Mailing List <aprssig_at_lists.tapr.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 12:29:09 PM
>Subject: [aprssig] Need Ideas
>
>Last evening I was talking with the ham that organizes the ham support for
>the Pikes Peak Ascent and Marathon. This is the 3rd oldest marathon in the
>US. On Saturday they run 10 miles and gain 6000 feet in altitude. Then on
>Sunday they run up and back down. He was telling me that they use packet to
>report the runners as they arrive at the top back to the bottom at the start
>line for the Ascent. I commented that this would be a perfect use for APRS.
>As the runners pass the hams positions on the hill the bib numbers could be
>sent back down and displayed on a monitor so that spectators, families, and
>race officials could see the progress of the runners. He said that there
>would be know way he could find hams that would carry the needed equipment
>up the mountain to their location. I told him that in most locations that a
>D7 would be all that would be required (maybe a better antenna and of course
>a spare battery back. But these would also be needed for voice
>communications.) Also, a tracker or D7 for the S&R folks that are foot
>mobile during the event.
>How can I best sell this idea? His final comment was we are going to
>continue doing this the way that we always have done it.
>
>Thanks,
>Dave N0EOP
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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:55:08 -0800
From: Anna M Reeves <wa7ros_at_juno.com>
Subject: [aprssig] VISTA & WinAPRS
Have any of you actually used the new operating system VISTA with WinAPRS??
If so, which version of WinAPRS were you using??
I'm sorry if this has already been addressed, but I have been on "vacation".
73,
Ann
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