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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 20:34:20 -0500
From: Steve Huston <huston_at_srhuston.net>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Local Traveler Repeater Freq Objects
On 1/30/07 7:13 PM, Robert Bruninga wrote:
>But to those purests, that want their object to be unique on the
>APRS-IS, we offer them a chance to coordinate their -X if they want
>the hassle...
I don't think it's a hassle to want to be able to go to findu before a trip
and map out the "popular repeaters" along the way, and preprogram them
before leaving (or while at rest stops). Which is also why I like the idea
of using the callsign for the object with -R (and multiple repeaters being
-R1 -R2 etc) since that should be a simple lookup to find them all in an
area. But I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree on this point.
--
Steve Huston - W2SRH - Unix Sysadmin, Dept. of Astrophysical Sciences
Princeton University | ICBM Address: 40.346525 -74.651285
126 Peyton Hall |"On my ship, the Rocinante, wheeling through
Princeton, NJ 08544 | the galaxies; headed for the heart of Cygnus,
(609) 258-7375 | headlong into mystery." -Rush, 'Cygnus X-1'
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 19:01:37 -0700
From: Chris Howard <w0ep_at_frii.com>
Subject: RE: [aprssig] Local Traveler Repeater Freq Objects
>True, it is not absolutely global, but for the purpose of these
>objects which is local RF only anyway, it just doesn't matter to
>the application. But to those purests, that want their object
>to be unique on the APRS-IS, we offer them a chance to
>coordinate their -X if they want the hassle...
Ok, just quit saying "unique" unless you mean something close to what
"unique" means.
Chris
-- a purist
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 21:07:18 -0500
From: "A.J. Farmer (AJ3U)" <farmer.aj_at_gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Local Traveler Repeater Freq Objects
On 1/30/07, Robert Bruninga <bruninga_at_usna.edu> wrote:
>>Why would this matter?... these objects would be put
>>on the network via one hop to keep them local.
>
>Ah... No, not even one hop. DIRECT ONLY. When these objects
Sorry. I was envisioning "direct" in my mind, but I incorrectly
worded it as "one hop". :-)
--
A.J. Farmer, AJ3U
http://www.aj3u.com
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 21:11:22 -0500
From: "A.J. Farmer (AJ3U)" <farmer.aj_at_gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Local Traveler Repeater Freq Objects
On 1/30/07, Steve Huston <huston_at_srhuston.net> wrote:
>I don't think it's a hassle to want to be able to go to findu before a
>trip and map out the "popular repeaters" along the way, and preprogram
If you have Internet access and want to find repeaters, use a directory
like this one:
http://www.usrepeaters.com/
However if you mobile without an Internet connection, use the APRS repeater
objects on your APRS display.
Use the right tool for the job at hand...
--
A.J. Farmer, AJ3U
http://www.aj3u.com
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 21:18:57 -0500
From: Steve Huston <huston_at_srhuston.net>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Local Traveler Repeater Freq Objects
On 1/30/07 9:11 PM, A.J. Farmer (AJ3U) wrote:
>On 1/30/07, Steve Huston <huston_at_srhuston.net> wrote:
>>I don't think it's a hassle to want to be able to go to findu before a
>>trip and map out the "popular repeaters" along the way, and preprogram
>If you have Internet access and want to find repeaters, use a
>directory like this one:
>http://www.usrepeaters.com/
>However if you mobile without an Internet connection, use the APRS
>repeater objects on your APRS display.
>Use the right tool for the job at hand...
Yes, because that repeater directory is so easy to just look at and know
right where a machine is located in relation to your travels or if it will
have enough coverage to bother trying to scan it while passing through the
area. As I said, agree to disagree.
--
Steve Huston - W2SRH - Unix Sysadmin, Dept. of Astrophysical Sciences
Princeton University | ICBM Address: 40.346525 -74.651285
126 Peyton Hall |"On my ship, the Rocinante, wheeling through
Princeton, NJ 08544 | the galaxies; headed for the heart of Cygnus,
(609) 258-7375 | headlong into mystery." -Rush, 'Cygnus X-1'
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 21:30:55 -0500
From: "A.J. Farmer (AJ3U)" <farmer.aj_at_gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Local Traveler Repeater Freq Objects
On 1/30/07, Steve Huston <huston_at_srhuston.net> wrote:
>Yes, because that repeater directory is so easy to just look at and know
>right where a machine is located in relation to your travels or if it
>will have enough coverage to bother trying to scan it while passing
>through the area. As I said, agree to disagree.
Actually, it is very easy to use. You may not have seen the mapping
feature. Here is the direct link:
http://www.usrepeaters.com/maps/
Unfortunately, it looks like the repeaters are not showing on the map at
the moment so there may be some type of glitch going on right now. Normally
it works just fine. I have just sent the admin an e-mail so they can check
it out.
--
A.J. Farmer, AJ3U
http://www.aj3u.com
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 21:43:26 -0500
From: Steve Huston <huston_at_srhuston.net>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Local Traveler Repeater Freq Objects
On 1/30/07 9:30 PM, A.J. Farmer (AJ3U) wrote:
>On 1/30/07, Steve Huston <huston_at_srhuston.net> wrote:
>>Yes, because that repeater directory is so easy to just look at and know
>Actually, it is very easy to use. You may not have seen the mapping
>feature. Here is the direct link:
>http://www.usrepeaters.com/maps/
I stand corrected. Most excellent tool - thanks!
--
Steve Huston - W2SRH - Unix Sysadmin, Dept. of Astrophysical Sciences
Princeton University | ICBM Address: 40.346525 -74.651285
126 Peyton Hall |"On my ship, the Rocinante, wheeling through
Princeton, NJ 08544 | the galaxies; headed for the heart of Cygnus,
(609) 258-7375 | headlong into mystery." -Rush, 'Cygnus X-1'
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 22:21:39 -0500 (EST)
From: "William McKeehan" <mckeehan_at_mckeehan.homeip.net>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Local Traveler Repeater Freq Objects
That would be nice except the data used by things like usrepeaters.com is not
accurate. It simply uses the city that the repeater is listed as for the
location. The actual location of the repeater could be miles away from the
reported location.
Putting it out as an object would indicate someone has an interest in letting
you know about the repeater, so the information is more likly to be
up-to-date.
I think usrepeaters.com is a great idea, but still missing something.
--
William McKeehan
On Tue, January 30, 2007 9:30 pm, A.J. Farmer (AJ3U) wrote:
>On 1/30/07, Steve Huston <huston_at_srhuston.net> wrote:
>>Yes, because that repeater directory is so easy to just look at and know
>>right where a machine is located in relation to your travels or if it
>>will have enough coverage to bother trying to scan it while passing
>>through the area. As I said, agree to disagree.
>
>Actually, it is very easy to use. You may not have seen the mapping
>feature. Here is the direct link:
>
>http://www.usrepeaters.com/maps/
>
>Unfortunately, it looks like the repeaters are not showing on the map
>at the moment so there may be some type of glitch going on right now.
>Normally it works just fine. I have just sent the admin an e-mail so
>they can check it out.
>
>--
>A.J. Farmer, AJ3U
>http://www.aj3u.com
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 23:33:35 -0500
From: "A.J. Farmer (AJ3U)" <farmer.aj_at_gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Local Traveler Repeater Freq Objects
On 1/30/07, William McKeehan <mckeehan_at_mckeehan.homeip.net> wrote:
>Putting it out as an object would indicate someone has an interest in letting
>you know about the repeater, so the information is more likly to be
>up-to-date.
I do not disagree. It's a great idea. We are already implementing it in
our area.
>I think usrepeaters.com is a great idea, but still missing something.
It has a great foundation, but it is lacking user input to keep the
repeater information up to date. The same is true with getting APRS
repeater objects on the map and keeping them accurate.
Both are great ideas that need user input and support to work.
--
A.J. Farmer, AJ3U
http://www.aj3u.com
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