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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:41:54 -0500
From: "Brian Webster" <bwebster_at_wirelessmapping.com>
Subject: RE: [aprssig] TM-D700A MANAULS ECTS
Andrew,
English is obviously not his primary language. Give it a break, there is no
need to call names on the list. He might actually have something good to
share with the list but I would not blame him for unsubscribing from the
list with comments like that. I wise man once said, "if you don't have
something nice to say maybe it's better not to say anything at
all"............
Thank You,
Brian N2KGC
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:50:44 -0800 (PST)
From: Chris Rose <kb8uih_at_sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Thieves steal GPS tracking devices
Worlds dumbest criminals?
Chris
KB8UIH
----- Original Message ----
>From: Joel Maslak <jmaslak-aprs_at_antelope.net>
>To: TAPR APRS Mailing List <aprssig_at_lists.tapr.org>
>Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 7:42:17 AM
>Subject: [aprssig] Thieves steal GPS tracking devices
>
>
>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070119/ap_on_fe_st/stolen_gps_1
>
>Oops. ;)
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:32:00 -0400
From: "julien mervyn dedier" <julien9z4fz_at_gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] TM-D700A MANAULS ECTS
Since this is basic stuff i am sending some radios to you to programme,i
hope you can do it if you hard knowledge on how to get the ham community to
use their tm-d700a and th-d7,for a a ham i expected better from you i want
to give you a challenge,i am going to pull back and i want you to take over
and give us some direction on how to use our radio best.
All my email will show that the evidence support the facts what i have
been talking about,what about the ham driving his car and see CON on his
console but did not fully understand what was going on,all this about
knowledge exposing people
After visiting your site i taught i might learn some thing from what i see
you have limited mind,packet virus,aprs packet virus exit,in vk land you
say tnc crash not working,well what cause the tnc to crash why the thc not
working,please my friend if i am wrong please teach me i want to learn,
really i want to learn if i do not know something.
so i stand by and awaiting something from vk land if i am a jerk well
packet virus is taboo,please teach me what you know that i did not know
>"aprs packet virus "
>
>Who is this jerk ?
>
>This is basic stuff.
--
THANKS
JULIEN
9Z4FZ//TRINIDSA & TOBAGO.
M0JDD//UNITED KINGDOM.
M0JDD/J3//GRENADA.
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:59:47 -0800 (PST)
From: Michael Sawyer <mikesawyer_at_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] TM-D700A MANAULS ECTS
Well said.
[my first post after lurking for a couple of months or so.]
Mike Sawyer
KG5IB
----- Original Message ----
>From: julien mervyn dedier <julien9z4fz_at_gmail.com>
>To: TAPR APRS Mailing List <aprssig_at_lists.tapr.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 6:32:00 PM
>Subject: Re: [aprssig] TM-D700A MANAULS ECTS
>
>Since this is basic stuff i am sending some radios to you to programme,i
>hope you can do it if you hard knowledge on how to get the ham community to
>use their tm-d700a and th-d7,for a a ham i expected better from you i want
>to give you a challenge,i am going to pull back and i want you to take over
>and give us some direction on how to use our radio best.
>
>All my email will show that the evidence support the facts what i have
>been talking about,what about the ham driving his car and see CON on his
>console but did not fully understand what was going on,all this about
>knowledge exposing people
>
>After visiting your site i taught i might learn some thing from what i see
>you have limited mind,packet virus,aprs packet virus exit,in vk land you
>say tnc crash not working,well what cause the tnc to crash why the thc not
>working,please my friend if i am wrong please teach me i want to learn,
>really i want to learn if i do not know something.
>
>so i stand by and awaiting something from vk land if i am a jerk well
>packet virus is taboo,please teach me what you know that i did not know
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:58:33 -0800 (PST)
From: Ron <ve1aic_at_yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [aprssig] Local Repeater Displays on Mobiles
Hi Bob, I suspect many people (like me) were sending the repeater objects
from their client station. In UI-View the REPEATER object is /m, whereas
the ANTENNA is /r so thats why so many are using /m.
So now I've moved my repeater object to the UIDIGI node beacon text but
there is a problem. On my D7 it won't decode properly with that format. If
I put this beacon text:
;146.670- *111111z4612.74N/06320.46WrPHG8560 IRLP 2030 VE1CRA
This shows up as a fixed station with the senders (nodes) callsign instead
of the object name (146.670-)
If I put the PHGxxxx later in the string it shows up properly (Object name
etc) but the PHG doesn't decode.
;146.670- *111111z4612.74N/06320.46WrVE1CRA PHG8560 IRLP2030
Perhaps it works fine on the D700 but not on my D7-A(G).
A second problem I see with having the object name as the repeater
frequency instead of its callsign is the duplication problem where popular
repeater frequencies will overwrite each other. As would happen when
another repeater object somewhere in the world also happens to be on
146.670-.
73, Ron
>Message: 16
>Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:19:00 -0500
>From: "Robert Bruninga" <bruninga_at_usna.edu>
>Subject: RE: [aprssig] Local Repeater Displays on Mobiles
>To: "'Ron Tonneson'" <ron.tonneson_at_gmail.com>, "'TAPR APRS Mailing
>List'" <aprssig_at_lists.tapr.org>
>Message-ID: <04c801c73e73$511302b0$42577a83_at_SGSbb>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>>If you would take a look at W0GQ-R. Did I do it correct?
>
>;W0GQ-R *192245z4158.56N/09140.24Wr146.745- PL open
>
>Well, actually no. But thanks for asking.. I see a few
>improvements that can be made.
>
>1) Only the call shows on the map/D700 and not the freq.
>2) It does not include the PHG data for displaying its range
>3) It did not use the 111111z standard to make it permanent.
>
>So here is how I recommend it:
>
>;146.745- *111111z4158.56N/09140.24WrPHGxxxx PL is open W0GQ-R
>
>That fixes all the problems and by adding the word "is", then it
>fits nicely on the display of a D7 or D700 mobile. You fill in
>the values for the xxxx PHG digits. If you don't know, just
>tell me the estimated Height above average terrain in the area,
>the estimated power, any favored direction, and the estimated
>antenna gain and Ill send you back the right values.
>
>Doing it the way I recommended, it will show on a D7 mobile
>display as:
>
>+------------+
>| 146.745- |
>| PL is OPEN |
>| W0GQ-R |
>+------------+
>
>And the PHG data would show as:
>
>+-------------+
>| 146.745- |
>| pw 9W h0040'|
>| ant6dB omni |
>+-------------+
>
>If it was running 9 watts at 40 feet with a 6 dB omni antenna.
>Most APRS clients would then plot a range circle around that
>repeater to show it's useable range if requested.
>
>Thanks
>Bob, Wb4APR
>
>
>>Thanks,
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:03:17 -0800
From: "Scott Miller" <scott_at_opentrac.org>
Subject: RE: [aprssig] AvMap G4T APRS GPS
>ICONS on its map. But unlike other GPS's that do this, the G4T
>uses two different ICONS, one for fixed and the other for moving
>stations. Makes it real easy to see the mobiles.
At the moment, a T2 with a Garmin GPS will display about 50 distinct
symbols. Maybe 15 or 20 for a Magellan. I'm thinking of (optionally)
devoting 8 custom symbols to wind direction indicators - that way you could
check wind directions from multiple stations at a glance. Might be nice
for hang glider/paraglider landing approaches and hazmat response with
portable wind monitors.
I've badgered AvMap about adding more hooks for APRS use, and while their
US rep is very responsive their Italian programming team seems to be less
so. I don't think they've even published their proprietary interface spec
(Kenwood uses plain old NMEA), though I hear it's been reverse engineered.
So for now I'm still focusing on Garmins, since they've got the richest and
most well-documented interface, despite their shortcomings (like the
inability to delete an individual waypoint). I really wish we could get a
GPS vendor willing to open up to the ham community, but I don't have any
faith that it's going to happen.
Scott
N1VG
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 20:38:29 -0500
From: Steve Huston <huston_at_srhuston.net>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Local Repeater Displays on Mobiles
On 1/23/07 7:58 PM, Ron wrote:
>If I put this beacon text:
>;146.670- *111111z4612.74N/06320.46WrPHG8560 IRLP 2030 VE1CRA
>This shows up as a fixed station with the senders
>(nodes) callsign instead of the object name (146.670-)
I noticed this same problem today - had a friend with a D700 have a look
at the object, and it also shows up incorrectly.
>A second problem I see with having the object name as
>the repeater frequency instead of its callsign is the
>duplication problem where popular repeater frequencies
>will overwrite each other.
>As would happen when another repeater object somewhere
>in the world also happens to be on 146.670-.
Funny you mention that :>
--
Steve Huston - W2SRH - Unix Sysadmin, Dept. of Astrophysical Sciences
Princeton University | ICBM Address: 40.346525 -74.651285
126 Peyton Hall |"On my ship, the Rocinante, wheeling through
Princeton, NJ 08544 | the galaxies; headed for the heart of Cygnus,
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