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Today's Topics:
1. KPC3+ lost settings (Andrzej AB9FX)
2. iGate software (Jim)
3. Re: iGate software (Robbie, wa9inf)
4. Re: iGate software (VE7GDH)
5. RE: iGate software (Jim)
6. Re: iGate software (Jan T. Pharo)
7. IS Woes? (Eric Goforth)
8. RE: iGate software (VE7GDH)
9. Too many digi's ? (William McKeehan)
10. Re: Too many digi's ? (Patrick Green)
11. RE: iGate software (Ron Cluster)
12. Re: Too many digi's ? (Jason Winningham)
13. Re: Too many digi's ? (Joel Maslak)
14. Re: Too many digi's ? (Gregg Wonderly)
15. Re: Too many digi's ? (Jason Winningham)
16. Re: Too many digi's ? (Joel Maslak)
17. Re: Too many digi's ? (William McKeehan)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:04:07 -0500
From: "Andrzej AB9FX" <ab9fx_at_aprs.pl>
Subject: [aprssig] KPC3+ lost settings
Few weeks ago, digi SP3KWA-4 working with Kantronics KPC3+ v.9.1 lost all
settings. I put new battery and put all settings to tnc. After a week tnc
was reset again. TNC is not connected to any computer nor external device,
just tnc+radio+power supplay. Did anybody encounter the same problem? Could
be any packet string messing up tnc? or any other reason?
thanks
Andy AB9FX (SP3LYR)
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:45:32 +0100
From: "Jim" <jim_at_stuckinthemud.org>
Subject: [aprssig] iGate software
I'm looking for alternative iGate software.
My first venture into this area has been with UI-View and, whilst being good
when it's connected, is poor at recovering from internet link dropouts.
My application is for an unattended station, so I'm looking for something
that is robust and reliable.
Map display is not needed, just something that will push packets between the
Internet and RF based on the usual iGate rules.
I'm not a Linux person, so must be something that is Windows based.
Can anyone make any recommendations?
Thanks.
Jim
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:12:33 -0500
From: "Robbie, wa9inf" <mwrobertson_at_comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] iGate software
Jim wrote:
>I'm looking for alternative iGate software.
>
>My first venture into this area has been with UI-View and, whilst
>being good when it's connected, is poor at recovering from internet
>link dropouts.
>
>My application is for an unattended station, so I'm looking for
>something that is robust and reliable.
>
>Map display is not needed, just something that will push packets
>between the Internet and RF based on the usual iGate rules.
>
>I'm not a Linux person, so must be something that is Windows based.
>
>Can anyone make any recommendations?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Jim
Jim, the only time I drop off the servers, is my router acts up.. Even that
would get you too... Are you using the rotate.aprs2.net server, and have
Auto reconnect in UI-View/APRS Server setup enabled?
I know I've seen dos-based digi programs, can't for the life of me remember
their names, sorry...
Robbie
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:39:56 -0700
From: "VE7GDH" <ve7gdh_at_rac.ca>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] iGate software
Jim (callsign?) wrote...
>I'm looking for alternative iGate software. My first venture into
>this area has been with UI-View and, whilst being good when
>it's connected, is poor at recovering from internet link dropouts.
It sounds like you are describing an Internet connection problem and not a
UI-View problem. By all means, look at other options, but if your computer
doesn't have an Internet connection for whatever reason, no APRS client is
going to be any better than another. UI-View just ticks along here 24/7. If
you have Windows set to start up with no password (someone else may have
some other ideas there) it should be able to reboot unattended, but if you
want reliability, it should at least be on a UPS to get you through short
power outages. If you have a shortcut in your startup folder, UI-View will
start automatically after a reboot. If you have UI-View set to connect
automatically (schedule editor) and to reconnect automatically (APRS
server setup) it should be able to just take care of itself. What about the
TNC? does it always have power when the computer has power? What is
causing your Internet connection problems?
As Robbie mentioned, using rotate.aprs2.net:14580 would also be a good
move (along with auto-reconnect) so that if the APRS server disappears,
after a few minutes, UI-View will reconnect to another server for you.
73 es cul - Keith VE7GDH
--
"I may be lost, but I know exactly where I am!"
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:03:43 +0100
From: "Jim" <jim_at_stuckinthemud.org>
Subject: RE: [aprssig] iGate software
As far as I can tell (and from my experiences last week), UI-View gives up
if the connection to the server is lost for any period of time (minutes). It
tries to reconnect once, then gives up if it can't.
The system was UPS protected and no known outages during the period.
Everything is set to auto-start anyway! The internet connection is known to
be occasionally flaky with resets happening, but I would have expected the
software to deal with it by trying more than once.
My reason for looking at other solutions was wanting something that was more
aggressive and persistent at reconnecting when then connection comes back
up.
Jim
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:21:34 +0200
From: "Jan T. Pharo" <la2bba_at_jpharo.net>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] iGate software
"Jim" <jim_at_stuckinthemud.org>, Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:03:43 +0100:
>As far as I can tell (and from my experiences last week), UI-View gives up
>if the connection to the server is lost for any period of time (minutes). It
>tries to reconnect once, then gives up if it can't.
My experience with UI-View is that it reconnects to the APRS server as soon
as the Internet connection is up again (as long as the server hasn't lost
its power; I do not power from a UPS). It's running on a Win2kServer here,
the way to the Internet is via a router and a broadband modem. You'll have
to check the "Enable Auto-connect" box in Setup - APRS Server Setup.
--
73 de Jan, LA2BBA
Hvaler, Norway
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:17:05 -0700
From: "Eric Goforth" <eric_at_goforthtech.com>
Subject: [aprssig] IS Woes?
Hi All;
Is anyone else experiencing issues with the IS? APRSDEPOT is not getting
feeds from any of the tier2 stuff at all. It connects and nothing comes
through.
Using filter port and only specifying positions and messages...
???
Eric, N6GOF
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:37:51 -0700
From: "VE7GDH" <ve7gdh_at_rac.ca>
Subject: RE: [aprssig] iGate software
Jim (callsign?) wrote...
>As far as I can tell (and from my experiences last week), UI-View gives
>up if the connection to the server is lost for any period of time
>(minutes). It tries to reconnect once, then gives up if it can't.
If you have it set to connect automatically and use rotate.aprs2.net or
even a selection of several servers and have UI-View set to reconnect
automatically, and to reconnect after "max silence" has gone by, it should
just take care of itself. It still sounds like you have a connection
problem. When UI-View can't connect to the APRS server, have you tried
browsing to any site at all to verify that your connection is working?
>The system was UPS protected and no known outages during the period.
>Everything is set to auto-start anyway! The internet connection is known
>to be occasionally flaky with resets happening, but I would have expected
>the software to deal with it by trying more than once.
The UPS will definitely help you get by bumps in the power or brief
outages. I would be very suspicious of the flaky connection though. I still
think you have other problems. It just doesn't sound like a UI-View
problem. It has everything built right into the program to deal with
automatically connecting when UI-View starts or to reconnect if the APRS
server you were connected to disappears on you. It will even reconnect if
"max silence" goes by and it hasn't received any data from the server. In
my experience, it will just connect and work. If it can't connect, there is
a reason. The "max silence" must be set to a non-zero value for this to
work. Five minutes seems like a good setting.
>My reason for looking at other solutions was wanting something that was
>more aggressive and persistent at reconnecting when then connection
>comes back up.
I still say that if you don't have an Internet connection, a different APRS
client isn't going to fare any better. I don't want to discourage you from
trying other programs, but if you have everything set up as described
(UI-View in your startup group, set to connect automatically, set to
reconnect automatically, max silence set to a non-zero value - e.g. to 5
mins - and to use rotate.aprs2.net plus one or two other severs) it should
be trouble-free... as long as you have an Internet connection. If you lose
your connection, UI-View should try connecting every 30 seconds until it
connects.
Re servers... if you use one only, use rotate.aprs2.net:14580. If you use
e.g. aprswest.aprs2.net:14580 ONLY and that server has a problem, you
won't have anything to connect to. If you have two servers in your list,
and the first one fails, UI-View will try and connect to the second one. If
you have more than two servers selected, it will pick one at random. It
won't attempt to reconnect if you told it to disconnect.
I presume that you aren't using a proxy server? I would start by proving
that you can connect to anywhere with your browser. If you don't have a
working connection, UI-View (or any other APRS client) won't be able to
connect.
73 es cul - Keith VE7GDH
--
"I may be lost, but I know exactly where I am!"
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