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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 10:47:10 -0400
From: Brian Riley <brianbr_at_mac.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Rant - Cross platform portability
I would point out the LimeWire is a java app and its distribution to
'clueless end-users' is both enormous and quite successful.
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cheers... 73 de brian riley, n1bq, underhill center, vermont
On Sep 18, 2006, at 9:20 AM, Rich Mulvey wrote:
>Now, on this I have to disagree, at least when it comes to
>certain Java applications. Deploying Java apps to the end-user can
>be a total PITA. WebStart systems are one way - but IME a lot of
>users are so far behind the technology curve that they don't have
>browsers set up for it. I've found that even having a web page
>with direct links to a JRE, and telling them "Download this, run
>it, and you'll be ready to go" is an exercise best suited for a
>masochist. My experience with free cross-platform Java application
>packager/installers is that they haven't tended to work
>particularly well, though, admittedly, the last time I surveyed
>them was about two years ago.
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 11:12:49 -0400
From: Rich Mulvey <aprs_at_mulveyfamily.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Rant - Cross platform portability
Brian Riley wrote:
>I would point out the LimeWire is a java app and its distribution to
>'clueless end-users' is both enormous and quite successful.
I'll have to take your word on that, but my first reaction would be
to wonder if the typical LimeWire user falls into the same demographic
as the typical Amateur Radio software user. I'm guessing not. ;-)
- Rich
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 11:13:07 -0500
From: "John Habbinga" <kc5zrq_at_gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] APRS Link
Actually I've been using APRSLink with D-STAR and UI-View32. I usually
write out my email with notepad in the format required by APRSLink, then
paste the message lines into the UI-View 'Text' field. Sending the message
takes minimal airtime since I'm not using a digipeater with my
configuration and since the gateway computer is in a tall building in the
middle of town, I can send and receive APRSLink messages from anywhere in
the county. It is much better than using the one-liner email and I can
receive an email if I need to.
It would be nice if someone could come up with an APRSLink plug-in
interface for UI-View32 that would parse a paragraph into the individual
send lines and be able to reassemble a received email to make it easier to
read.
On 9/18/06, Robert Bruninga <bruninga_at_usna.edu> wrote:
>It is important to note that the APRSlink system was
>Designed to allow a D700 or D7 HT user to send and
>Receive his WinLink or regular Email using only the
>Radio and not even need a PC. This is not immediately
>Obvious on the APRSlink web page.
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 09:30:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Curt, WE7U" <archer_at_eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Should Have Read RatShack-Sony GPS RX
On Sat, 16 Sep 2006, Robbie, wa9inf wrote:
>Matthew Stennett wrote:
>
>>Referring to the FACELESS RatShack-Sony GPS receiver
>>closed out from Radio Shack several years ago)
>>
>I still am not familar with "RatShack-Sony GPS" Do you have a part
>number or something I could Google with?
>
>I am using a couple of the DigiTravelers myself, great little "faceless"
>gps...
The innards are made by Sony, so yea, the DigiTraveler is the one
he's talking about.
--
Curt, WE7U. APRS Client Comparisons: http://www.eskimo.com/~archer
"Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math." -- unknown
"Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates." -- WE7U
"The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system!"
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 09:48:41 -0700
From: "Herb Gerhardt" <hgerhardt_at_wavecable.com>
Subject: RE: [aprssig] APRS Link
The intent of the APRSLink feature was to allow APRS users to be able to
send and receive email while in remote areas where they do not have access
to a computer or the internet.
If those are available like when you are at home or in the office, the
notification feature of APRSLink, notifying you on APRS when you have mail
in your Winlink mailbox is still a very handy feature which does not use any
appreciable RF. When I receive notification on APRS from WLNK-1 that I have
x messages, and I am at home, I open the AIRMAIL program and connect via the
Telenet Client, read my email and tend to it as required. I do not use any
air time at all while at home.
This APRSLink feature is really a nice feature but keep in mind, that it
should not be used when you have other means of accessing your Winlink
email. This is especially true in the high APRS usage areas which don't
need the additional traffic but when there is no other means of accessing
the Winlink email, it sure does come in handy. When you are out in the
boonies (the low APRS usage areas) then again it does not present an RF
problem on APRS since RF is very sparse in those areas.
APRSLink is a neat feature but let's not abuse it.
Herb, KB7UVC
NW APRS Group, West Sound Coordinator
Our WEB Site: http://www.nwaprs.info
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