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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: FCC License Question (James R. La Frieda)
   2. Re: FCC License Question (Peter Laws)
   3. Re: FCC License Question (Glenn Miller - AA5PK)
   4. W5PFG/p mode J VU V/U V/u 144/435 2/70 today (Clayton Coleman)
   5. Re: W5PFG/p mode J VU V/U V/u 144/435 2/70 today (Robert Switzer)
   6. Re: W5PFG/p mode J VU V/U V/u 144/435 2/70 today (Peter Laws)
   7. Re: FCC License Question (Howie DeFelice)
   8. Re: FCC License Question (Donald Jacob)
   9. time is running out - field day submissions (Bruce)
  10. Re: FCC License Question (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
  11. Re: FCC License Question (Peter Laws)
  12. LL Grace - Kansas City Tracker/Tuner Satellite Antenna
      Controller/Doppler CI-V (Joe Leikhim)
  13. Re: LL Grace - Kansas City Tracker/Tuner Satellite Antenna
      Controller/Doppler CI-V (Peter Laws)
  14. Re: FCC License Question (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 08:03:36 -0700
From: "James R. La Frieda" <lafrieda@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx Dave Mann <cwo4mann@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FCC License Question
Message-ID: <9ee5735a-7b20-5e0a-312f-902b6106100c@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

Dave,

Renewed- online- my Commercial Radiotelegraph License, two months ago,
and after the FCC received the application and granted the renewal, they
sent the following e-mail- which allowed me to download an "Offical
Copy" of the new T license- which never has to been renewed again:

This email is to notify you of the recent grant of your application(s).
The Commission currently provides access to the official version of your
electronic licenses through License Manager in the Universal Licensing
System (ULS) or by email.

The official version of your recently granted license can be accessed
using the link below. Please note that this link will connect you to the
most current version of your license. If you use this link at a future
date, any changes made after the receipt date of this email will be
reflected on the authorization. This link will remain active for 30 days.

Authorization Link
<http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/letterPdf/LetterPdfController?token=cfde97fdb
f744e0ba18eef9461e23997&op=OfficialLetterPdf>

Licensing Support Center at (877) 480-3201, Option 2; TTY (717)
338-2824, or via the web at https://esupport.fcc.gov/request.htm

73, Jim (N6MV)



On 7/7/2016 7:50 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
> The FCC no longer routinely issues paper license documents to amateur
> radio operators.
>
> You can request one by following the procedures laid out here:
> http://www.arrl.org/files/file/VEs/Obtain%20License%20Copy%202015.pdf
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 10:47 AM, Dave Mann <cwo4mann@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>> I renewed mine via the ARRL Program at no cost.  I received a
confirmation letter and an e-mail in a couple of weeks.  I went to the FCC
Web site and confirmed my new expiry date and then printed a paper copy of
the license from that site.  I also received several "official looking"
letters from independent VEC entities urging me to renew using their
services for a fee.  I ignored and shredded those.   Those independent
operations scan the FCC Database and send advertisements for their services.
 We've come a long way since I received my first license in 1955!
>>
>> HTH, YMMV,
>> 73
>> Dave
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Jul 7, 2016, at 09:39, Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> Has anyone renewed their ham license recently. I renewed mine online and
it
>>> appeared to work.
>>>
>>> I received two very official looking letters from the FCC within a week of
>>> submitting the application.
>>>
>>> First one was "Ref: CORES Registration Update".
>>>
>>> Second one was "Ref: PSQ Request for your CORES FRN:xxxxxxxxx". This
letter
>>> indicates
>>> "Entity Type: INDIVIDUAL ENTITY" which is reassuring.
>>>
>>> Neither letter indicates anything is wrong nor does it mention anything
>>> about a license. I realize that the federal government is drowning in the
>>> paper work mess they have created to give them something to do but this is
>>> a bit much.
>>>
>>> Do they ever send you an actual paper license ? I need to send a copy to
>>> the DMV to renew my ham plates. It has been almost 4 weeks. I sent in a
>>> request for duplicate license after three weeks.
>>>
>>> TNX W9KE Tom Doyle
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>



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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 10:33:16 -0500
From: Peter Laws <plaws0@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FCC License Question
Message-ID:
<CANVAiQ8wSA=AFo0xXzmw433YoS2Tj9-z1FT==inm2+PgESemnA@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> You can request one by following the procedures laid out here:
> http://www.arrl.org/files/file/VEs/Obtain%20License%20Copy%202015.pdf


Unfortunately, the FCC seems unable to make use of the same digital
signature used by the rest of the federal government on PDFs so the
document you print isn't anything approaching a legal copy of your
license (and, in any case, the "license grant" is the DB record and
not the paper and it's been that way for at least a decade).  Be nice
if they could get their IT ... stuff together.  It's not hard - see,
for example: https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2016-07-07/pdf/2016-16047.pdf

And, speaking of the FCC not having their IT stuff together:

http://www.arrl.org/news/view/fcc-investigating-amateur-radio-commercial-appli
cation-processing-glitch






--
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!


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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 10:45:11 -0500
From: "Glenn Miller - AA5PK" <aa5pk@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "Thomas Doyle" <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>,	<AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FCC License Question

Message-ID: <D7BBD92BC532484BB27B4C381BA017A3@xxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original

The FCC quit issuing paper licenses in February 2015.  You may download a
reference copy of your license on the ULS site.

How to Obtain an Official FCC License Copy

http://www.arrl.org/obtain-license-copy

Glenn
AA5PK

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Doyle
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 9:39 AM
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] FCC License Question

Has anyone renewed their ham license recently. I renewed mine online and it
appeared to work.

I received two very official looking letters from the FCC within a week of
submitting the application.

First one was "Ref: CORES Registration Update".

Second one was "Ref: PSQ Request for your CORES FRN:xxxxxxxxx". This letter
indicates
"Entity Type: INDIVIDUAL ENTITY" which is reassuring.

Neither letter indicates anything is wrong nor does it mention anything
about a license. I realize that the federal government is drowning in the
paper work mess they have created to give them something to do but this is
a bit much.

Do they ever send you an actual paper license ? I need to send a copy to
the DMV to renew my ham plates. It has been almost 4 weeks. I sent in a
request for duplicate license after three weeks.

TNX W9KE Tom Doyle
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


------------------------------

Message: 4
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 11:36:24 -0500
From: Clayton Coleman <kayakfishtx@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] W5PFG/p mode J VU V/U V/u 144/435 2/70 today
Message-ID:
<CAPovOwcho60ZQ2yYbcVZA-=-E3=DwYXCjZnMT7T=UOrAMKT1fQ@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

I'll work two more satellite passes from the DM66/67 grid line today, July
7, concluding operations from the mountains of Southern Colorado.

FO-29 at 17:32 UTC
SO-50 at 20:17 UTC

I will QSL regardless of the designator  you use for these satellites. :-)

73
Clayton
W5PFG


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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 16:40:16 +0000 (UTC)
From: Robert Switzer <rs2atmink@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Clayton Coleman <kayakfishtx@xxxxx.xxx>, AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] W5PFG/p mode J VU V/U V/u 144/435 2/70 today
Message-ID:
<180799777.379576.1467909617018.JavaMail.yahoo@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

sorry, I'm confused because you didn't mention the U or D designators on the
frequency.
Rob KA2CZU


    On Thursday, July 7, 2016 12:36 PM, Clayton Coleman
<kayakfishtx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:


 I'll work two more satellite passes from the DM66/67 grid line today, July
7, concluding operations from the mountains of Southern Colorado.

FO-29 at 17:32 UTC
SO-50 at 20:17 UTC

I will QSL regardless of the designator? you use for these satellites. :-)

73
Clayton
W5PFG
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb




------------------------------

Message: 6
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 11:39:32 -0500
From: Peter Laws <plaws0@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] W5PFG/p mode J VU V/U V/u 144/435 2/70 today
Message-ID:
<CANVAiQ8JFs8av10qpYB1p-QrvxMLYWMNbBwrPtOOZPVJWSMLHw@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Clayton Coleman <kayakfishtx@xxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
>
>
> I will QSL regardless of the designator  you use for these satellites. :-)


Lol!

Sadly, I'll miss that SO-50 pass.


--
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!


------------------------------

Message: 7
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 12:52:00 -0400
From: Howie DeFelice <howied231@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Glenn Miller - AA5PK <aa5pk@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Thomas Doyle
<tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>, "AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FCC License Question
Message-ID: <BLU169-W1235347E89406BBFAD7CEEEE73B0@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

I recently renewed mine online and requested a paper copy. I received it in
about 3 weeks. Doesn't look any different than if I printed it at home. I
guess pretty soon we will be able to print money the same way :)

Howie
AB2S

> From: aa5pk@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx
> To: tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxxx AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 10:45:11 -050or, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
 		 	   		


------------------------------

Message: 8
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 10:16:49 -0700
From: Donald Jacob <wb5eku@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FCC License Question
Message-ID:
<CABCjCMDyCyEpi4h3SqJAz0-Q5vBqq5AEz7g7rvbb0BG++4oorw@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Tom,
No more paper license mailed to you. This has been for a number of months
now.
But using the FRN number you can log in and print your own license.

Don
WB5EKU


On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 7:39 AM, Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:

> Has anyone renewed their ham license recently. I renewed mine online and it
> appeared to work.
>
> I received two very official looking letters from the FCC within a week of
> submitting the application.
>
> First one was "Ref: CORES Registration Update".
>
> Second one was "Ref: PSQ Request for your CORES FRN:xxxxxxxxx". This letter
> indicates
> "Entity Type: INDIVIDUAL ENTITY" which is reassuring.
>
> Neither letter indicates anything is wrong nor does it mention anything
> about a license. I realize that the federal government is drowning in the
> paper work mess they have created to give them something to do but this is
> a bit much.
>
> Do they ever send you an actual paper license ? I need to send a copy to
> the DMV to renew my ham plates. It has been almost 4 weeks. I sent in a
> request for duplicate license after three weeks.
>
> TNX W9KE Tom Doyle
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


------------------------------

Message: 9
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 14:14:36 -0500
From: Bruce <kk5do@xxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] time is running out - field day submissions
Message-ID: <9617a3f5-adad-c3b8-f1ae-4f1a1068fbb4@xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

If you participated in Field Day and you plan on submitting your group's
score, you have until 23:59 PM on Monday, July 11th to get those
submission sheets in to me. AMSAT's deadline is sooner than the ARRL
deadline for Field Day.

Send them to kk5do@xxxxx.xxx or kk5do@xxxx.xxx. I will send a reply
email when I have received them (usually that day or the next day). If
you do not receive an email that I have received your submission, try
again. Sometimes electrons in free space are lost for no apparent reason.

I will be at a conference all day Monday and might not have a chance to
send your confirmation email until the evening.

73...bruce


--

Bruce Paige, KK5DO

AMSAT Director Contests and Awards
AMSAT Board Alternate 2015-2016

ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE

Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT*
Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com
Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes

Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News
http://www.arrl.org

AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat



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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 19:22:24 +0000
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FCC License Question
Message-ID:
<CAN6TEUfT0v5jybV3e=hd4cV82DDpGgfOMyxZH384EiJPTde9pg@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hi!

When this announcement came out last fall, I logged into the FCC's
ULS system and set my preferences to send a paper copy of my
licenses. When I renewed my amateur license in March, I had a paper
copy in my PO box about a week after I did the renewal online.
It had "Official Copy" printed across it, front and back, and was
printed on what appears to be normal white copier/printer paper.

I just logged into the ULS system this morning, and downloaded
a PDF file with all of my FCC licenses/permits - my amateur
license, a GMRS license, and a Restricted Radiotelephone Operator
Permit. These also had "Official Copy" across each page in the 5-
page PDF file - two pages each for the amateur license and RROP,
and one page for the GMRS license. This is different than the PDF
file I downloaded from the ULS system after I logged out. Anyone
can download a "Reference Copy" PDF of an FCC license, which has
"Reference Copy" printed across each page of the PDF.

I may go back and change my preference to skip the paper copy of
my FCC licenses being mailed to me. For now, I'll leave it as is.
Even though we are not required to carry a paper copy of our amateur
licenses when operating in the US, I prefer to have the wallet-
card version on me for those occasions where I might be asked for
it.

73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @xxxxxx




On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 2:50 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:

> The FCC no longer routinely issues paper license documents to amateur

> radio operators.
>
> You can request one by following the procedures laid out here:
> http://www.arrl.org/files/file/VEs/Obtain%20License%20Copy%202015.pdf
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
>


------------------------------

Message: 11
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 14:45:26 -0500
From: Peter Laws <plaws0@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FCC License Question
Message-ID:
<CANVAiQ_a66QGVsCrKdKV=ghV08BU2LeZ46d2c9k42SvH70=mCg@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 2:22 PM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
<amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> and one page for the GMRS license. This is different than the PDF
> file I downloaded from the ULS system after I logged out. Anyone
> can download a "Reference Copy" PDF of an FCC license, which has
> "Reference Copy" printed across each page of the PDF.

Sadly, though, no digital signature ...  At least they set the doc
restrictions to Not Allowed for everything but printing.  Easy to
create one that looks just like it with fake info without the
signature, though.

Thanks for pointing out the Official vs Reference - I'd not noticed
that before.


--
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!


------------------------------

Message: 12
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 15:34:43 -0400
From: Joe Leikhim <rhyolite@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] LL Grace - Kansas City Tracker/Tuner Satellite
Antenna Controller/Doppler CI-V
Message-ID: <560d9cd9-561f-6d5d-469c-a819174f61e5@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Now cleaning my closets out. I have this Kansas City Tracker /Tuner
controller for auction now $59.97 plus shipping US and international.
Like New, Complete and ready to use. See details

http://www.ebay.com/itm/162121167759?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m
1555.l2649

Thanks K4SAT

--
Joe Leikhim


Leikhim and Associates

Communications Consultants

Oviedo, Florida

JLeikhim@xxxxxxx.xxx

407-982-0446

WWW.LEIKHIM.COM



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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 16:45:25 -0500
From: Peter Laws <plaws0@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Joe Leikhim <rhyolite@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] LL Grace - Kansas City Tracker/Tuner Satellite
Antenna Controller/Doppler CI-V
Message-ID:
<CANVAiQ91rjpbKTJbLt0XzKDhVfXn3eKdTx1u1vS7cqTMokOu2g@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 2:34 PM, Joe Leikhim <rhyolite@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Now cleaning my closets out. I have this Kansas City Tracker /Tuner
> controller for auction now $59.97 plus shipping US and international. Like
> New, Complete and ready to use. See details
>
>
http://www.ebay.com/itm/162121167759?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m
1555.l2649


Had one of those at W5YM when I was an undergraduate.  Worked really
well.  Are you including an ISA slot to put it in?  :-)


--
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!


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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 21:51:43 +0000
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FCC License Question
Message-ID:
<CAN6TEUeMaKbQocGQyCxnMTRG0XBCvi3szxZf4_RaJmmtokf7pg@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Peter,

Anyone could Photoshop an "Official Copy" license document for
printing, even if the PDF carried a digital signature. Other
than for operating outside the USA where the printed license
is required (CEPT, IARP, or other arrangements), FCC rules state
that we are licensed if we have a call sign in the ULS database.
That's been the case for some time, even before the recent change to
not mail paper copies of licenses by default.

Even though FCC rules don't require us to have a paper copy of
our license with us, with a few exceptions mentioned above, I
still keep the card version of my license with me. It has been
helpful, even if that happens just outside US borders.

73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @xxxxxx







On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 7:45 PM, Peter Laws <plaws0@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:

>
> Sadly, though, no digital signature ...  At least they set the doc
> restrictions to Not Allowed for everything but printing.  Easy to
> create one that looks just like it with fake info without the
> signature, though.
>
> Thanks for pointing out the Official vs Reference - I'd not noticed
> that before.
>
>
> --
> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
> _______________________________________________
>


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Subject: Digest Footer

_______________________________________________
Sent via amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx.
AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide
without requiring membership.  Opinions expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

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