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Today's Topics:
1. AMSAT demo tonight on SO-50 @ 0424 UTC (& possibly other
passes) (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
2. Re: Band designators, Modes (Dave Webb KB1PVH)
3. Re: Band designators, Modes (skristof@xxxxxxx.xxxx
4. Re: Band designators, Modes (age and stubborn) (Mark Lunday)
5. Re: Band designators, Modes (age and stubborn)
(skristof@xxxxxxx.xxxx
6. IN72 GRID (Antonio Fernandez Sanchez)
7. Re: Band designators, Modes (Rick)
8. [Video] Coolest ISS SSTV Image! (John Brier)
9. Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-07-07 06:00 UTC
(AJ9N@xxx.xxxx
10. Email/Text miscommunications (Robert Bruninga)
11. Re: Email/Text miscommunications (skristof@xxxxxxx.xxxx
12. FCC License Question (Thomas Doyle)
13. Re: FCC License Question (Dave Mann)
14. Re: FCC License Question (Paul Stoetzer)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 19:50:21 +0000
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT demo tonight on SO-50 @ 0424 UTC (& possibly
other passes)
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Hi!
Craig KL4E e-mailed me (and a few others), mentioning that he
will give an AMSAT presentation to the Chehalis Valley Amateur
Radio Society in Chehalis, Washington, this evening. Chehalis
is between Seattle and Portland. More information about the
club, and tonight's meeting, is available at:
http://www.cvars.org/
Along with the presentation, Craig plans to give a demonstration
on SO-50 during the 0424 UTC (9.24pm PDT) pass. Craig mentioned
he may be able to work the passes before and after this particular
pass, depending on if people show up early or stay late after the
meeting. If you hear KL4E on, please give Craig a call and be a
part of his demonstration(s).
Good luck, and 73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @xxxxxx
(You may resume the discussion about band designators and modes,
already in progress...)
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 15:50:50 -0400
From: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Band designators, Modes
Message-ID:
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While everybody is worrying about a solution for a problem that really
doesn't exist if you pay attention, I'll be in my garage working on
reinventing the wheel.
Dave-KB1PVH
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2016 16:25:08 -0400
From: skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx
To: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Band designators, Modes
Message-ID: <982794fc318a3b4972b925966a0dacdc@xxxxxxx.xxx>
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Thank you, Dave. Let us know how it comes out!
On 2016-07-06 15:50, Dave Webb KB1PVH wrote:
> While everybody is worrying about a solution for a problem that really
> doesn't exist if you pay attention, I'll be in my garage working on
> reinventing the wheel.
>
> Dave-KB1PVH
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 16:35:23 -0400
From: "Mark Lunday" <mlunday@xx.xx.xxx>
To: "'Robert Bruninga'" <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>, "'AMSAT-BB'"
<AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Band designators, Modes (age and stubborn)
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Echo Bob's comments. Although not at the end of the scale, it only takes a
few nudges to get me there.
And regarding AO-85 and Fox-1A or Fox1 or whatever it's now called...I find
it easier to track by the 5-digit numerical unique ID assigned to each
satellite (yes, I am a computer geek accustomed to that type of
unique-ness).
No, I don't memorize the ID, but with many satellites having AA-## AND a
name, it's difficult to tell who is referring to what when I read about a
particular bird.
So it's like converting the local Time Zone to GMT and back, with a handy
Excel Spreadsheet list.
Mark Lunday, WD4ELG
Greensboro, NC FM06be
wd4elg@xxxx.xxx
http://wd4elg.blogspot.com
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2016 17:09:40 -0400
From: skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx
To: 'AMSAT-BB' <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Band designators, Modes (age and stubborn)
Message-ID: <98dd9e4824ff2b57f1ce84444986e195@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
I got it! We should switch to emojis ;-) to designate modes.
Then, when someone is talking about a particular mode, the person would
have to make that actual face that corresponds to the mode to which he
or she is referring.
Genius!
Your welcome.
Steve
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 18:31:09 +0200
From: Antonio Fernandez Sanchez <antoniofsanchez@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] IN72 GRID
Message-ID: <DUB406-EAS16501B62B68643B48A2005BAE3A0@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Will activate IN72 Grid next friday, July 8th. Will try to be present at
most satellite passes between 0900-100UTC until 18-1900 UTC. Will be
present in FO-29, XW series, and SO-50 & AO-85
Even will try AO7 pass for USA stations (just cross fingers for AO7 be
active in ?B? mode that day )..
73,s
Antonio (EA1IW)
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 14:05:48 -0600
From: Rick <scruzan1@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Band designators, Modes
Message-ID:
<CAB44SxZiG3iJQWiyauU++HCzknU7OtaaQRHVqaPH8v8Xe4WQSA@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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>Count me in STRONGLY for FREQUENCY, not even meters and centimeters. My
> radio front panel reads in MHZ, not meters or centimeters. And absolutely
> none of the alphabet soup.
>
> IMHO
> Bob, WB4APR
> Getting older and more forgetful every day...
I agree with Bob, especially the part about getting older and more
forgetful!
Rick, KE6LL
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 02:17:07 -0400
From: John Brier <johnbrier@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] [Video] Coolest ISS SSTV Image!
Message-ID:
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https://youtu.be/VSFAlGfvPPc
If you liked this video please subscribe to me on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/c/SpaceComms1?sub_confirmation=1
This is my favorite image from the July 2015 International Space
Station (ISS) Slow Scan TV (SSTV) event, at least of the images I
received.
I love how each cosmonaut and astronaut is smiling and holding their
nation's respective flag, and that they are doing it together.
This Slow Scan TV event celebrated the 40th anniversary of the Apollo
and Soyuz docking together, and I think this image symbolizes that the
best.
First video from this series:
https://youtu.be/5PJJixog12A
For more info on ISS SSTV see my "ISS SSTV Reception Hints" article:
https://spacecomms.wordpress.com/iss-sstv-reception-hints/
Links to videos featured at the end:
TOMSK Bandit ISS Repeater:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svnB7h_k7_M
My First Perfect ISS SSTV Image:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7to9uX1sWC4
Equipment I use for ISS Reception:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3JwOwjYIkM
ISS Reception (Kopernik Observatory):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGFEanljOG8
73, John Brier KG4AKV
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 03:30:46 -0400
From: AJ9N@xxx.xxx
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-07-07
06:00 UTC
Message-ID: <1e95d1.6d3b9693.44af5f26@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-07-07 06:00 UTC
Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:
The All-Russian Public Organization Radio And Radiol?bitel?Stva "The
Russian amateur radio Union", Ufa, Russia, direct via RZ9WWB
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be RS?ISS
The scheduled astronaut is Oleg Skripochka RN3FU
Contact is a go for Thu 2016-06-30 07:55 UTC
Science Museum of Virginia, Richmond, Virginia, telebridge via VK5ZAI
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Jeff Williams KD5TVQ
Contact was successful: Wed 2016-07-06 14:28:20 UTC 77 deg (***)
ISS R&D Conference, San Diego, CA, telebridge via W6SRJ (***)
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS (***)
The scheduled astronaut is Jeff Williams KD5TVQ (***)
Contact is go for: Thu 2016-07-14 16:03:33 UTC 37 deg (***)
Frontiers of Flight Museum's ?Moon Day 2016?, Dallas TX, telebridge via
W6SRJ (***)
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS (***)
The scheduled astronaut is Jeff Williams KD5TVQ (***)
Contact is go for Option #1: Sat 2016-07-16 15:54:09 UTC 88 deg (***)
****************************************************************************
**
ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.
ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. Feel free to send
your reports to aj9n@xxxxx.xxx or aj9n@xxx.xxx.
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***
All ARISS contacts are made via the Ericsson radio unless otherwise noted.
****************************************************************************
***
Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and
not being able to get in. That has now been changed to
http://www.ariss.org/
Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.
****************************************************************************
Looking for something new to do? How about receiving DATV from the ISS?
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete
details. Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.
http://www.ariss-eu.org/
If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to
provide some insight. Contact Kerry at kbanke@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
****************************************************************************
ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100
schools:
Gaston ON4WF with 121
Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 119
Francesco IK?WGF with 116
****************************************************************************
The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date
webpages were removed and new ones have been added. If there are
additional
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know.
Note, all times are approximate. It is recommended that you do your own
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed
time.
All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date
and
time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS
The complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-07-07 06:00 UTC.
(***)
Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1066. (***)
Each school counts as 1 event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1031. (***)
Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47.
A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas, Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern
Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
QSL information may be found at:
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html
ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS
****************************************************************************
The successful school list has been updated as of 2016-07-07 06:00 UTC.
(***)
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf
Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing
Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf
Listing of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf
Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts
https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************
Exp. 47 on orbit
Jeff Williams KD5TVQ
Oleg Skripochka RN3FU
Aleksey Ovchinin
****************************************************************************
73,
Charlie Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 09:31:33 -0400
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Email/Text miscommunications
Message-ID: <eebd9821690c801dd1e51062789875b4@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
[EMAIL]
I?m beginning to realize the problems we have in AMSAT-BB and other
reflectors communication is caused by the bifurcation of email into two
categories. Email and Texts.
We see the problem crop up daily? One liner posts that make no sense and
have no context, and long emails that few take the time to digest before
fat-fingering a one line response.
It is frustrating to have a complex problem being addressed by a
multi-paragraph email discussing all the options and permutations and
considerations and background on a problem and then having spent an hour
presenting a well laid out treatise on the issues, to have the response
come back as a fat finger ?yes? or ?no?.
You can see it in the emails. The one-line TEXTS which have given the
issue about as much thought as an eye blink. Or that was digested on a
smart phone while walking across the street.
I?m not complaining, just observing. Hence the first line of my email
above. Giving the recipient a heads up that this email is not a knee jerk
shot from the hip TEXT.
Wouldn?t it be nice if EMAILS could generally only be read on full screen
PC?s and all concise TEXTs are displayed only on tiny 2? screens. That
would force the sender and receiver into the same ?communications
environment? to better understand the context.
Just a thought.
Bob, WB4APR
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2016 09:56:30 -0400
From: skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx
To: AMSAT-BB <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Email/Text miscommunications
Message-ID: <e49409342a818e6af0b096b738ddc35a@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
I think that, like any technology, it is not the technology itself
(email vs. text), but the user of the technology that makes the
difference.
It is pretty easy to send a one line email that has no more thought put
into it than a one line text. (Yes, I will admit to participating on
both ends of that activity, sending and receiving.)
And text messages can be thoughtful, although a long one may be broken
into chunks by the service provider.
Steve AI9IN
On 2016-07-07 09:31, Robert Bruninga wrote:
> [EMAIL]
>
> I'm beginning to realize the problems we have in AMSAT-BB and other
> reflectors communication is caused by the bifurcation of email into two
> categories. Email and Texts.
>
> We see the problem crop up daily... One liner posts that make no sense and
> have no context, and long emails that few take the time to digest before
> fat-fingering a one line response.
>
> It is frustrating to have a complex problem being addressed by a
> multi-paragraph email discussing all the options and permutations and
> considerations and background on a problem and then having spent an hour
> presenting a well laid out treatise on the issues, to have the response
> come back as a fat finger "yes" or "no".
>
> You can see it in the emails. The one-line TEXTS which have given the
> issue about as much thought as an eye blink. Or that was digested on a
> smart phone while walking across the street.
>
> I'm not complaining, just observing. Hence the first line of my email
> above. Giving the recipient a heads up that this email is not a knee jerk
> shot from the hip TEXT.
>
> Wouldn't it be nice if EMAILS could generally only be read on full screen
> PC's and all concise TEXTs are displayed only on tiny 2" screens. That
> would force the sender and receiver into the same "communications
> environment" to better understand the context.
>
> Just a thought.
>
> Bob, WB4APR
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 09:39:32 -0500
From: Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] FCC License Question
Message-ID:
<CAHnRQRJiZ=g-1MjLj-UTq2D_HcNvaycnqJJ7vu27VBp=UJ-HmQ@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Has anyone renewed their ham license recently. I renewed mine online and it
appeared to work.
I received two very official looking letters from the FCC within a week of
submitting the application.
First one was "Ref: CORES Registration Update".
Second one was "Ref: PSQ Request for your CORES FRN:xxxxxxxxx". This letter
indicates
"Entity Type: INDIVIDUAL ENTITY" which is reassuring.
Neither letter indicates anything is wrong nor does it mention anything
about a license. I realize that the federal government is drowning in the
paper work mess they have created to give them something to do but this is
a bit much.
Do they ever send you an actual paper license ? I need to send a copy to
the DMV to renew my ham plates. It has been almost 4 weeks. I sent in a
request for duplicate license after three weeks.
TNX W9KE Tom Doyle
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 09:47:39 -0500
From: Dave Mann <cwo4mann@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FCC License Question
Message-ID: <E2D6B69B-2A69-48DF-B5D0-45E09279CFF6@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
I renewed mine via the ARRL Program at no cost. I received a confirmation
letter and an e-mail in a couple of weeks. I went to the FCC Web site and
confirmed my new expiry date and then printed a paper copy of the license
from that site. I also received several "official looking" letters from
independent VEC entities urging me to renew using their services for a fee.
I ignored and shredded those. Those independent operations scan the FCC
Database and send advertisements for their services. We've come a long way
since I received my first license in 1955!
HTH, YMMV,
73
Dave
Sent from my iPad
> On Jul 7, 2016, at 09:39, Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> Has anyone renewed their ham license recently. I renewed mine online and it
> appeared to work.
>
> I received two very official looking letters from the FCC within a week of
> submitting the application.
>
> First one was "Ref: CORES Registration Update".
>
> Second one was "Ref: PSQ Request for your CORES FRN:xxxxxxxxx". This letter
> indicates
> "Entity Type: INDIVIDUAL ENTITY" which is reassuring.
>
> Neither letter indicates anything is wrong nor does it mention anything
> about a license. I realize that the federal government is drowning in the
> paper work mess they have created to give them something to do but this is
> a bit much.
>
> Do they ever send you an actual paper license ? I need to send a copy to
> the DMV to renew my ham plates. It has been almost 4 weeks. I sent in a
> request for duplicate license after three weeks.
>
> TNX W9KE Tom Doyle
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 10:50:40 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: Dave Mann <cwo4mann@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FCC License Question
Message-ID:
<CABzOSOo0t-=8zeh79g8_UX59qFSKEGmgWmsJwtRXr4pmNVk89Q@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
The FCC no longer routinely issues paper license documents to amateur
radio operators.
You can request one by following the procedures laid out here:
http://www.arrl.org/files/file/VEs/Obtain%20License%20Copy%202015.pdf
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 10:47 AM, Dave Mann <cwo4mann@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> I renewed mine via the ARRL Program at no cost. I received a confirmation
letter and an e-mail in a couple of weeks. I went to the FCC Web site and
confirmed my new expiry date and then printed a paper copy of the license
from that site. I also received several "official looking" letters from
independent VEC entities urging me to renew using their services for a fee.
I ignored and shredded those. Those independent operations scan the FCC
Database and send advertisements for their services. We've come a long way
since I received my first license in 1955!
>
> HTH, YMMV,
> 73
> Dave
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Jul 7, 2016, at 09:39, Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>> Has anyone renewed their ham license recently. I renewed mine online and it
>> appeared to work.
>>
>> I received two very official looking letters from the FCC within a week of
>> submitting the application.
>>
>> First one was "Ref: CORES Registration Update".
>>
>> Second one was "Ref: PSQ Request for your CORES FRN:xxxxxxxxx". This letter
>> indicates
>> "Entity Type: INDIVIDUAL ENTITY" which is reassuring.
>>
>> Neither letter indicates anything is wrong nor does it mention anything
>> about a license. I realize that the federal government is drowning in the
>> paper work mess they have created to give them something to do but this is
>> a bit much.
>>
>> Do they ever send you an actual paper license ? I need to send a copy to
>> the DMV to renew my ham plates. It has been almost 4 weeks. I sent in a
>> request for duplicate license after three weeks.
>>
>> TNX W9KE Tom Doyle
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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