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VE3WBZ > 144MHZ 30.10.12 17:13l 99 Lines 3428 Bytes #999 (0) @ WW
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Subj: RE:VK2AWZ's comments right on!
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To : 144MHZ@WW
TO: 144MHZ@WW
FR: VE3WBZ
DT: Tuesday, October 30th.,2012 @ 1020hrs EST <JPST>
Hello David VK2AWZ and others, that might read this posting of
yours. I am going to re-quote it, because it is important.,
Well to me, as I have made comments on-air to these Internet
Hams for years.
Also going to throw in my pennies of support for what you are
saying, because it is so true!
<< Quoting VK2AWZ to 144MHZ@WW >>
> From : VK2AWZ To : 144MHZ@WW
> Type/Status : B$ Date/Time : 29-Oct 21:34
> Bid : E20150VK2AWZ Message # : 80292
> Title : little use of repeaters
>
> From: VK2AWZ@VK6ZRT.#BUN.#WA.AUS.OC
> To : 144MHZ@WW
>
> Having been a ham since 1948, I find it very disappointing
> that ordinary contacts between hams has fallen to its lowest
> ever!
>
> This particularly on 144 repeaters, where once they were
> going all day.
>
> In our area there are some 6 repeaters,I can reach plus some
> 438 meg ones.
How true! When they have socials, these hams attending can not
socialize, like they do with a micrphone in their paws.
> Whereas once some 100 different stations could be logged using
> them, now most can go week after week with no one on them at
> all. Two repeaters get a once a week use of WIA broadcast and
> a club net. But that's it.
The nightly net, on the local repeater for Toronto, lasts for
"3" minutes, and then they are all gone. They even have an
automated system now trying to get more members as it has
declined in years.
> Also HF is very quiet except for contests and the few who
> chase DX, just for the contact, but don't ham it up, with a
> long conversation.
As my HF antenna is still down, only have mobile, and the 80m
net is just it seems checkins, far and inbetween and no chatter.
YES..have not heard a conversation for a long time...?
> Also I am one of the last packeteers that
> download BBS headers every day.
Agreed there. All I hear now is voice and how to connect more
to Internet. How to use my cellphone for ham radio and Internet,
and don't talk to me, seems to be the new operator.
Packet...well they are trying to get rid of it here, from what I
hear from operators talking , when they do. I guess it isn't
Emergency enough for them. Who knows David?
> Also Ecolink although having many with their call signs up
> there, 90% of VK2's do not reply to a call.
I hope you realize that the calls are on there all the time
and it says if the operator is online in Echlink.
> So I ask, has ham radio really had it. Hams should remember
> the old adage of "use it or loose it" These frequencies
> are very valuable!
>
> 73 - Dave, VK2AWZ @ VK@ZRT
>
> Message timed: 08:33 on 2012-Oct-30
> Message sent using WinPack-Telnet V6.80
>
> [End of Message #80292 from VK2AWZ]
Right on David! I remember that well, and even mentioned to a few
snobs, that perhaps yearly licence fees should comeback, and perhaps
rental of a frequency ... which sparked a Sqawk here.
Even on the fringe of the 144mhz area, we note pagers there, and some
poorly installed ones as well interfering with the 2m repeaters.
Yes they are valuable, and many business interests , yearly petition
the regulator to allow them use of these frequencies that the hammie
snobs think are birth rights. How foolish!
Great Post David.
73 Pete VE3WBZ
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