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From: VE3WBZ@VA3BAL.#SCON.ON.CAN.NOAM
To : UFO@WW
TO: UFO @WW
FR: VE3WBZ@VA3BAL.#SCON.ON.CAN.NOAM
DT: Monday,January 12th.,2009 @ 0939hrs EST
<< Quoting ZS2ABF to UFO @WW >>
> From : ZS2ABF To : UFO @WW
> Type/Status : B$ Date/Time : 10-Jan 06:29
> Title : Re: UFO Another Discussion
>
> From: ZS2ABF@ZS0ELD.ELD.ZAF.AF
> To : UFO@WW
>
Hello Peter, and others in this interesting exchange of
ideas, and views on UFOs seen now...and in the past.
I too am very happy those taking a chance and violating
their country's ban on disclosing anything have come
forward with events and anything else...to make interesting
reading.
> It has been said, what happens when we few that comment
> run out of comments. That's very true therefore, please
> you other guy's send in your personal thoughts.
If you Peter, and others keep injecting things of interest
then I have something to reply to...if not I am dead on
the subject , as I have done all comments on what I have.
Perhaps out of all the subjects, topics or whatever, we
should concentrate on an area, and then just take notes
of other comments, and add them to the waiting list to
be talked out ....
> I'm glad to see that questions are being asked and
> queried, but no fighting is taking place.
> We are not so "Lunatic" after all, just ordinary
> people with enquiring minds, Hi.
Yes. The subject keeps coming up here and there...
Past present and then also the unknown questions....
> If any one out there would like to say some thing but,
> do not want to publish their call sign, then just
> send your comments to me ZS2ABF @ ZS0ELD as a
> Private bulletin, and I will send them out under my call,
> and omit your call.
Good idea. I havem't a clue who might come to my door
either RCMP as Constable Dudley Doright ...or whatever
in the unclean overcoat called CISS ... and in any case
I'd be laughing so hard....
I think it would be better they come to you, as host of
the Discussion Group.
> Back to the pyramids again. Yes I do believe that they
> are not of this earth. The Egyptian archeologists will
> never admit it as they are good Tourist drawcards.
> Otherwise they would only have Sand & Flies left.
There has been so much written on these pyramids, and who
to believe. It seems a book is written, and then there is
a book opposing, and it goes on. Whether they are or not
they will always be there as buildings from so long ago.
> An American geologist said that the markings on the sphinx
> were caused by rain erosion and not sand blasting and, it
> has not rained in that part of the world in great torrents
> for 12,000 years.
Forgotten is Napoleon's army gunners used it as target
practice. So have others, but then when were records
kept of rain or sand storms tearing away at them?
> Many people have said that there are
> caves and chambers hidden below the sphinx. An Egyptian
> team were supposed to have excavated last year in order to
> enter these. Have we heard about any results of the dig.
> No, well I haven't. Has anyone else. What are they hiding?
Never heard about the caves or the digging.
> Someone (can't remember who) managed to get a trip inside
> the great pyramid and took his camera. Above the great
> gallery there is the passage way that leads to the
> chambers above. He saw and took photos of several heavy
> duty cables entering that passage and heard the sound of
> machinery operating. He was not allowed to go further and
> no digs were supposed to be in operation. I have seen the
> published photos of these cables.
I wonder if the cables were that drilling that was on the
History Channel? It was all interesting with that robot
camera and discoverys. They'd need lots of cable for TV
lighting, and the drilling equipment...as well to break
through where it was a discovery of this or that...
> The pyramids are supposed to be the burial place of the
> Egyptian kings of long ago. Why is it then that no mummies
> (or Daddies) have been found in the great pyramid.
I know they didn't find DADDIES but wasn't the mummy found
in another area to throw off the would be grave robbers?
After all they did find eventually one of the famed Kings
of all places...some lousy place in Niagara Falls CANADA
and returned him with great cremony to Eygpt...where he
now resides in a special sealed glass displace case.
> Also no hieroglyphics have been found. These normally
> adorn the walls of the kings buried, as in the
> "Valley of the Kings".
Can not remember if they did or not...or even a few...
but then why do that which would fuel the grave robbers
minds...of we are close.
> If they went to so much trouble to carve out narrow tunnels
> so that the Mummies could be carried through into the
> burial place, then why did they build such an immense
> large and high gallery in the Great pyramid?
Ahh...that part I know from the show. They have the last
workman, and after all work done, and whomever buried
they would knock the timbers there holding the sealing
process, and as the pyramid sealed they escaped and this
gallery was created.
> It just does not make sense to me. Is there anyone out
> there that can answer that?
One part I wanted answered and it really wasn't was how
many workers got sealed in ...but then they never found
anyone there.
> I don't believe in the church and I know that the
> "Good books" are written text's wrote by the "scholars"
> of the day. The trouble is how scholarly were they in
> those days.
The Bible, if that is what you are hinting was written
from Greek writtings, by scholars of the early church
at the time. Written in Latin ,known only to the priests.
Most of the scholars who wrote or translated the early greek
into latin were in the church working up the ladder, and
while they must have had their own thoughts, they just
translated what they got, and left it to the higher ups
to decide what was or not to be known in future reprints
or updates.
> They even thought the world was flat.
One in those times would have to think that way, as the times
dictated that the Earth was the center of the Universe and
all that good stuff.... and if they thought other...it
meant being burned at the stake.
> Kings rewrote the bible in the way they wanted it and many
> changes were made. Religion is very big business today and
> they will not ever want to change that comfort zone.
The Fuedal system of King and Queens and their royal whatevers
down to peasants, dictated the King be shown to rule by the
grace of God. That enpowered the King.
That is human to grasp for power....like the grab for money
today, taught in schools...and we've all been grilled and
programed like this.
There are too many religions today...and it will grow as
there is more freedom to creat one. It is amusing if
not sad to see family members jumping from one to the other
and using religion as a crutch for their actions.
Other religions were started when lowers had ideas of their
own....schollars helped and they were created.
> I wonder how many Scrolls were found that really shed light
> on the UFO affair and have not been made public.
I thought Israel had discovered some more texts, but then
all went dead....maybe a good thing, or we'd have another
example of Jonestown or that loonie bunch committing sucide
to catch the UFO behind Halleys comet..or something like
that.
> In the old Indian texts many interesting facts have been
> found, but not many people can read them or even find were
> they are hidden today.
Interesting drawings can be seen in North and South America.
Not too many Indian or native americians wrote or had texts
and the only ones I ever heard of were those of the Aztecs
in the area now called Mexico. Perhaps someone from
Mexico is reading and can fill us in ...but as I understood
it, the priests coming with the Spainish ....distroyed all
aztec writtings....thus only things left are drawings and
cravings in the rocks of their citys.
> The people that can read the Texts
> and Scrolls are not interested in The UFO theory and won't
> even look at them from that angle.
I am sure, they have looked. It is interesting, but not to
belong to a group that imagine what is not there. Takes
a bit longer to actually ID that indeed one has seen a UFO.
> Many authors and church leaders have thrown stones at
> Erich von Daniken and his writings. He has also written
> back in later books defending himself.
Sorry Eric von Daniken is unknown to me....
> The books I have read that were written by him did not
> seem to say, that is that, so believe it. As I remember
> he gave you a scenario told you of his belief and then let
> you decide for yourself. I once spoke to a Ham in Canada
> who said that Eric was in the next cabin writing a new
> book. He gave me Eric's home address and said if I have
> any queries just give him a call. Of cause I never did.
If I had to write a book defending my earlier book, it
would mean the point, as you say that he wasn't clear
on leaving it up to the reader to decide..... I fail
to see why he is leaving it to the reader to decide
UFO or not...is a point to critc.
Too bad you didn't communicate with him...he could have
joined our group.
> The bible has several book missing in today's version.
> In one of the missing one's it said, he went up to heaven
> and looking down the earth looked like a plate of porridge.
> That's what earth looked like in the photo's taken from
> the moon by the NASA moon landing astronauts.
> Ezekiel stated many time things that can be taken as
> descriptions of Saucers/UFO's /Aliens etc. The problem is
> that there is a fine line between reality and incorrect
> interpretation by the people of the day. They had very
> little if indeed no knowledge of natural atmospheric
> phenomena. for instance, if a trained twentieth century
> pilot can mistake natural atmospheric phenomena for a UFO,
> what must our distant ancestors have thought about the
> sky's more magical offerings.
Todays educated earthling is better then not educated.....
but today.... UFOs are being ID'ed Unidentified Flying
Objects and via whatever way....they must be sorted through
and a real list complied with hopefully pictures.
When I was in South America, and BRASIL .... the topic of
UFOs did come up in conversations, and funny how these
rural remote people with no links to our so-called civilized
world can say and describe what seems to be something I read
about appearing another spot in the world. There is no
way these two people or groups could have met and dreamed
this up.
Yes...interesting chats and interesting discoverys in South
America .... And one of them is a city about the size
for 2 million people discovered ...well discovered by non
natives completely over grown by vegetation that it can
only be discovered by bumping into it. I never got to
it YET ....but I will .... there was a old Spainish Fort
on the coast like that...and well that was an interesting
event as it was pre the Pope's Demarcation Line of 1532 AD
and was a hidden secret fort of Spain on Brasilian or then
Portugal's territory. That too was deep..thick and over
grown ... and everyone was issued corn hushers to hack thru
to explore only the top ..the turrets and the gun deck
but below....bring a chainsaw....
> Cheers, Peter ZS2ABF
>
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It has been very enjoyable. Pete is right.... funny thing
happened here.... we all accept the other's posting, and no
fights..no rude remarks... and that is great.
Carry on it is very interesting .... Please post your
comments please!
Peter VE3WBZ < Email: ve3wbz@hotmail.com >
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