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VE3WBZ > UFO      12.10.08 01:37l 196 Lines 7154 Bytes #999 (0) @ WW
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Subj: RE: Klaus DL8OL: UFO related
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DT:Saturday,October 11th.,2008 @1108hrs EST

Hello Klaus DL8OL,  Peter ZS2ABF and everyone...who might be
reading along, on the RAD-I-O ... or the Internet.,

<< Quoting DL8OL to UFO @WW >>

From         : DL8OL
To           : UFO   @WW      
Type/Status  : B$
Date/Time    : 10-Oct 19:53
Bid          : AAIDB0ZDF08A
Message #    : 260804
Title        : Re^2: Pete ZS2ABF: Keep on !!!
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From: DL8OL @ DB0ZDF.#RPL.DEU.EU (Klaus)
To:   UFO @ WW
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>dear friends all over the world.
>
>I have a big problem of that topic.

 Why do you have a problem with the topic of UFOs?    Or is
it with Pete ZS2ABF spending time to get all these sightings
together to make people aware that there are strange things
flying by above our heads which do need Identifing.
Are they "SECRET" military experiments, natural..but rare,
or future...or what Klaus ?

>The "milkway" is a spam.l place in the stars and we think,
>we are unique.

 We are unique Klaus, because in my trips to the observatory
or Star Partys, sitting out all night in the frigging cold
winter's night huddled in a sleeping bag....I have not seen
a thing on any out there that gives the indication of life.

At least on earth , every 30 years they have wars, and bigger
and better bangs, ending with the last one in 1945 that must
have sent signals and light into outer space.

>If we regard our technical development I put it into 150
>years, starting with the steam-machines - and if I regerd,
>where we are today I think it as a little bit arrogant to
>emphasize our standard as the "only possible"

So there could be life, and they are sending these craft
here we call "UFOs" ...right?

>Even me, I have not seen a "flying soucer" but what does
>it mean?

You don't have to see one to believe.    Seeing one, or
something unknown < UFO = Unidentified Flying Object >
is or would be something, especially if we could control
the imagintive mind that fills in the holes to create
things that they aren't ...

>Let me go to the buildings (sorry, I wold liek to explain
>it better, questin of language) made with an art, stones of
>tons being builded in a way where we would neet today
>techniques with heavy mashines I do wonder.
>
>Just yesterday I saw a TV-converage about the "pyramides and
>the "Swings"being definatelly much older as it was said due
>to scientic reserches..
>
>Just tthat monument -and that is proofed scientic is much older
>as it is shown with the head.
>
>On the surface it is prooofed to be under the water a time
>before the head was added.
>Who has build it? With what?? Stone axes??
>
>In the museum of history in Baghdad you find a buffalo head
>with a bullet hole, definatelly more than
>(as far as I remember) older than 20.000 years?
>
>And the first of a electical  element!

Was that electrical element or rod found in a Pryamid in Egypt?

>In the Indian (not USA) Vedes, the mistery of that culture you
>find clear history of old airplanes.

Oh so in Northern Africa on some cravings the complete plans for
a Jet Engine ...or in the Jewish holy book the definition of
a Jet engine .... any comment.?

>The problem: There are used words we cannot explain the "how" but
>the describtion what they could do are there.
>(Dam'n language problem, sri)

 No problem with language Klaus... these are not really about
"UFO's" but a possible and looks like if you are getting at...
We are not the first civilization of the mudpie in space?

>If you go to the "Holy Bible" and regard that as true stories,
>being reported in the language of the people living in that time
>and did not know due to the lack of language (known problem!)
>you even find stories telling about visitors from other
>civilization.

Yes... already seen that from recent events in history...
where natives of some islands worshiped the aircraft that
came to their islands in WW2.

>Concerning the "Holy Bible" TO me it is amaz8ng how correct
>it describes the development of the world, beginning with the
>wild water, going to the fishes and the animals, coming out
>the water, the net step to the birds etc etc etc.

Aaaah Evolution.

>From where did these folks of nomades without any scholaric
>background did know it?

Yeah good question ...

>From where came the immage of the dragons (in my eyes the Saurier)
>come into the phantasy of all cultures.. Question over question.
>
>These question do not follow utomatically in a "Non believe" of
>the bible!!

Well the Bible apparentl did hint at UFOs ...   Not buildings
but then they seem to believe they know where Noah's Ark is...

>The story of "Sodom and Gomorrha" (and other places) to what
>does it remind me??  Nuclear catastrophe?

Yes.   Did they not have a TV show about this?

>The bible is true but it is to ask WHO gave that information??

Our people in the past wrote about it, and perhaps while they
might not have written text, they hanbded down the storys of
the event....over the re-telling it might have become distorted?

>Going back to the UFO: Who can explain to me why there are not
>better civilization, being in front of us some thousand of years?

So UFOs are their decendants coming back from "..?.." to checkout
the old neighbourhood?

>I do not know but I hesitate to believe they are not existing..
>
>Well, late evening, just my ideas
>
>regards
>Klaus,
>full of question
>
>[End of Message #260804 from DL8OL]

 Well Klaus ... for a late evening comment off the cuff, that
was thought provoking enough for me.    From UFOs we went to
perhaps previous civilizations occuping the earth.  Shades of
Atlantis... which predate the Greeks, who left us those
beautiful building in the Athens area, and elesewhere...also
our building foundations of most civilizations.

 I am still for Pete ZS2ABF to keep posting.     I'd even like
his Canadian contact who is really into this to contact me,
over this.    I'd send Mr. Vine Pete's postings, and I still
until Pete thinks it is a waste of his time and mine to post
them, as I know lots of people read them, but are peer pressured
not to reply or comment.

 ttfn

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