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South African Ham Radio UFO Interest Group. Known as (SAHRUIG).
NEWS Volume 1 News letter No.124
Don't forget to "LOOK UP TO THE SKIES" you may see something exiting.
Your Comments, Sightings or UFO/Paranormal stories will be welcomed and
are needed. When submitting Sighting reports please send as much detail as
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Report Below Updated!
Confronted By A UFO (Ex Marine Tells His Story Of Seeing A UFO In A Hanger)
HBCC UFO Research Note: Brian Vike spoke to this witness on the phone November
5, 2007) for I believe 2 hours and I will be calling him back tomorrow at
12:15 p.m. to finish up a fascinating talk and telephone interview.
This really is an incredible story, from being inside a UFO at the age of 7
years old, also much later in life when serving as a Marine in the United
States military with the highest of clearance was driving with others in a bus
with blacked out windows, black curtains covering the windows to keep
on-lookers and most likely the military people who were on the bus knowing
where it was they were going. When they arrived at a hanger, (their
destination) they got off the bus, were given a stern warning that what they
were about to see at this hanger was not to be related in anyway, or to
anyone!
(CASE REVIEW)
1. 1953 at 7 years of age, I'm given an air-mechanics industrial flashlight as
a gift from my mother’s friend, whom she is helping move to new location where
her husband has just found employment in the Burbank Ca., as airplane
mechanic.
2. During the night time move I point the industrial strength flashlight
towards the Hansen Dam built by the Army Corps of Engineers and I flash a
signal at a light I see on the Dams upper rim, to my surprise, the light
returns a signal flash, I initiated, flash per flash! My mother seeing this is
concerned the light might be a plane and tells me to stop, but in reality it
is a UFO resting on the dams upper rim!
3. Next (day) I notice a UFO hovering over near a small hill by our government
housing apartment, the UFO is in oscillating motion, I bring this to attention
of my older brother, two male cousins who also reside in government housing
project and other children.
4. UFO silently moves from hill towards apartments and stops, myself, brother,
cousins, we wave at UFO occupants who return the same, Dr. J. Allen Hynek,
reports this to (MUFON) in 1973/75. Craft follows housing units service drive
and fly's over children's playground and comes to rest in 45-degree angle at
the base of the Hansen Dam. (Footnote) government housing, federal dam works,
and military in later years play together in which I believe is possible
sinister involvement.
5. I along with children go to playground area were craft comes to rest;
children become frighten and return to government units. I approach the UFO,
and remember strong smell like battery acid, I place knee on craft, craft is
neither hot or cold as I remember and I crawl the circumference of the UFO and
on the opposite lower side of the craft I notice blinking lights, of magenta,
pink, gold, etc. I fall downward into craft, and only remember walking back to
apartment unit’s approx: 45 minutes later. The children are now playing hide
and seek, a game of the 50's and 60's.
6. I enter my apartment unit, and I am disorientated as I don't recognize my
sister and ask my mother if she is Chinese also! As in (elongated eyes) my
family is Hispanic, but the late Dr. Hynek feels and I agree that I was
disorientated and in reality I was trying to describe the alien beings as best
as a 7 year old child could, keeping in mind I'm not even sure if the term UFO
was even coined in 1953?
7. Brian, actual levitation takes place where I am floated upward in my room
as reported to the late Dr. Hynek, there is a return of the UFO/craft that
night, which more that 15 to 25 an approx: number of people adults included,
who witness the return of the craft and then the childhood UFO abductions take
place.
8. The being taken to a location in a naval bus with blacked out windows which
are painted black, with black curtains on top of that, 10 years later when I
serve in the Marine Corps, where there is a UFO craft. Moreover, I recently
have found out there is also another Marine who has had the same experience,
of being taken to a location where there is a UFO craft as reported in "UFO
over California" written in 2006 by Preston Dennett. Brian this is proof
enough for me, I'm not alone and there must be many more former military
personnel who have experienced the same as myself. Not to mention the little
known evidence that I and the other Marine were both given crypto clearance,
while in the military. Finally, I emailed you on or about Aug.27 & Aug.29th
concerning the recent 4 to 5 UFO's witnessed by my children, with a black UFO
which turns in to a black helicopter, bizarre case!
I'm 60 years of age, because of the other Marine that has had the exact same
thing taken place along with crypto clearance, same base, Camp Pendleton
Marine Base, same year 1967. I don't need to be beat over the head, something
is up.
CONTINUED BELOW!
Ruben's Ongoing Fascinating UFO/Alien Encounters
HBCC UFO Research Note: Ruben the gentleman who's story you are reading below
has related nothing short of an amazing story of his experiences to me and
Jeff Rense on the Jeff Rense radio program. Ruben has joined the Jeff Rense
show twice, each time for the entire show. Ruben is going to come back on the
Jeff Rense show to fill us all in what else has been going on in his life, and
his families as well.
1.If you would be so kind as to set up a brief outline of what I told you
concerning my case which start in 1953, at age 7, at the foothills of the
Angeles National Forest, the Tujunga mountains, which were adjacent to the
Hansen Dam Water Works Project. I saw a UFO with brothers, cousins, friends,
etc. The craft lands next to the Dam, and I enter it, and we fast forward to
1964, I join the Marine Corps, taken aboard the naval bus, with blacked out
windows, and end up in a jet hangar with blue glowing UFO, and aliens in
hangar.
2. 1954, my family was sent to another government housing unit, which may help
explain the time frame of breaking down the what I call the UFO test site,
housing project. The other government housing units still stand to this date
and was located near downtown Los Angeles. At this location as in the Hansen
Dam location, my father becomes more involved with the goings on, especially
as it pertained with the blue lights. At the Estrada location government
housing units, my younger brother went to get a small chair from the boys
bedroom to watch TV in the living room, when the family hears his screams of
there's a "blue light in the bedroom". I run to the hallway and my younger
brother is frozen in fear, unable to move, but only able to scream. This is
when I see the bright blue light that would also play an important part in my
life in the years to come, as a United States Marine.
3. I sent Brian Vike, an email concerning Ann Druffels book, "the Tujunga
Canyon Contacts", 1953 the same year of my childhood UFO abductions. Ann
starts her case history, concerning two (2) women UFO abductees, and the book
starts with, "the eerie blue lights" in the bedroom. The blue light I witness
with my brother encompassed the entire bedroom and hallway. And I with my
entire family witnessed from less than a 1/4 mile distance, a blue lit UFO
light follow our (SUV) to the front of our home.
4. From age 7 to 17, the UFO sightings took on a more hands on approach, that
is to say the UFO abductions started again, only this time from my grand
parents home, in Laton, CA in the north central part of the state. Laton is 30
miles south of Fresno, CA and 8 miles north of Handford, Ca. The place of my
birth. My grandparents had a nice parcel of land, and my grandfather was a
farmer, and a farm foreman for the local growers, of fruit, grapes, cotton,
corn, etc.
5. As cousins sometimes do, I had a fight with one of my male cousins at age
15; I walked away to burn off some steam. I decided to sleep outside under my
grandfather’s big 100-year-old Oak tree, as the abductions had started up
again. To this day I can't understand why I sleep outside in an army cot under
the tree, but I enjoy looking at the stars in the black of night.
6. This particular night when I fell asleep on the cot I remember seeing my
cousin's family coming home around 12:30am from the only drive-in movie 8
miles away in Handford, CA. I rose up to see the car and fell back asleep.
Around I would say 3:00am to the right of the oak tree, I saw the UFO for the
first time that had been abducting me from my grandparents house. It was on
the right side of the oak tree in the middle of a small feeder road and I saw
the aliens close up for the first time outside of the craft, one next to the
oak tree and feeder road and one next to the army cot under the tree which I
was asleep on. I then notice approximately 3 alien beings floating towards my
grandfathers cabin style house in which he had a large garden of tomato,
cucumbers, corn, etc. I looked at them from the cot but was unable to move, as
I was in the prone position this time on my stomach. The aliens were taking
samples of the soil and vegetables, and broke the soil very badly. As my aunt
and uncle, cousins saw me asleep on the cot coming in from the drive-in, I was
blamed for the damage to the garden and then the following transpired.
7. I was blamed for the damage to the garden by my cousin who I had fought
with the day prior, so I decided to walk to a canal which fed water to the
farmers for there fruit trees, cotton, etc. This canal was about 1 and 1/2
miles from my grandparents land. The canal always had water in it and there
was a big oak tree on the bank of the canal itself. The bank was barely big
enough to put maybe to bikes on it if we rested the bikes on the tree itself.
Moreover, we had rigged a rope on the oak tree to swing across the canal and
back to the bank of the canal. It was more fun to drop into the fast running
river water and swim back to the oak tree. As I was doing this a couple of
times, lets say 3 swings, as I came back to the upper bank I was surprised to
see a full big body black long sedan, something like what you see secret
service drive, between a small limo and a black service car.
Moreover, 2 men were standing next to the car. They wore crisp black suits and
I have a vague memory of a Fedora type hat on at least one of the tall men,
but the strange thing is I don't understand how they were able to park the car
next to the tree as we kids had a hard time resting our bikes there!
The men who looked between Oriental/Russian, dark olive pigmentation. From the
back seat of the car they brought a caped person, I took to be a woman as I
was 15 years of age I said to myself, oh my lucky day. On a second look, this
person was the most hideous, horribly ugly being I have ever seen. I turn to
run, but must have fell down the river/canal bank, so I started to crawl on my
hands and knees until I reached a small bridge for tractor traffic. I then ran
back to my grandparent’s home.
8. After being taken to the UFO location, I was sent to Vietnam where I was on
the second ship to land in Vietnam in April 10, 1965. Prior to my 13 month
tour of duty in Vietnam my unit was broken up as a training unit for the many
battalions of Marines to come after us, I was assigned to a grunt unit and
reassigned to an intelligence unit, while in the grunt unit I was to report of
any air activity that is enemy jet planes, but this was not generally the
case, but I did see what I feel was UFOs which seem to follow both grunt units
I was with, in my hearts of hearts I always felt that this was a concerted
effort on the part of the UFO's/aliens, to keep tab, on myself and other
Marines who may of had the same experience as myself, like the UFO in the jet
hangar. When I was assigned to the intelligence officers, I wanted to report
what I was seeing as it pertained to the UFOs that seem to follow the patrols
I found myself taken part in. On one patrol, I noticed a silver/disk UFO,
which seem to follow the patrol for 2 or 3 days, I did not report this to the
intelligence officers, as I didn't know whom I could trust, (Emphasis Added!).
While we were on lead point of the battalion one day I was standing with about
5 of the officers, when out of know where, again the blue lights came on, but
this time it was cobalt blue, which encircled all 6 of us with electrical
bolts of light that was I would say 20 yards all around us!
9. I then rejoined another grunt unit, and was then medavaced out of Vietnam,
to Yokuska Naval Hospital in Japan; where I met a chaplain’s assistant, and
the most bizarre thing happen, concerning his knowledge of my instant case as
it pertains to UFOs.
10. The big picture/and most recent UFO activity, after the Japan episode, UFO
activity has moved forward at a fast pace, thus I contacted Brian to report,
the blue UFO following my (SUV) home at night, also after once again shining a
industrial from my current home to a UFO less than a 1/4 mile from my home,
the wires in my dryer catch fire and fuse together when the dryer was off, and
15 minutes later the report control in my bedroom catch fire after I shine the
light at the UFO. A UFO follows home the 3rd. week of March, and my daughter
dreams of a UFO on Aug. 27 TH. By our back yard, and on Aug. 29 4 UFOs appear
to us, and a 5th black UFO comes in-between the 4 UFO then shift changes to a
black helicopter, it goes on and on, at this point I think I must trust the
chaplains assistant of what he told me in 1965. Brian I will add a little more
as time permits.
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About 35 Miles NW Of Spokane, Washington
Date: July 1998 or 1999
Time: Between 1:00 and 2:00 a.m.
Location of Sighting: about 35 miles NW of Spokane, Wa.
Number of witnesses: 1. Number of objects: 1
Shape of objects: Looked like a helicopter.
I am retired since this incident and am a full time RV'er now. I was working
as a hydro-operator out of Spokane, Wa. At the time of this sighting. I was on
night shift and we take care of 2 dams. Only one man on by himself at night.
The second dam sits at the bottom of a canyon, and after checking the plant
out, I came out of the building to head back to the other dam and noticed a
light appear over the rim of the canyon.
It was an aircraft of some sort and had only one light; it appeared to be a
spotlight, on the front of the craft. It was low and flying very slow, and
made no noise. It very quickly disappeared over the other rim, heading in a
southwest direction. I got in the pickup and went up the switchbacks and
levelled out, it's a straight road for about 2 miles back out to the main
highway. When I reached the top, I could see the craft again, still heading in
a southwest direction. There's a range of small hills a few miles off in that
direction, and the craft was nearly over the top of them and about to
disappear. But it made a U-turn and came back in the same direction it came
from. It was heading right for me, paralleling the road I was on. As it got
near, I pulled the truck over and stepped out to get a better look.
When I stepped out, the craft changed course and flew directly over the top of
me. There was no moon out that night, but a crystal clear night with a lot of
stars. The craft couldn't have been more than 3 or 4 hundred feet over head. I
could see a perfect silhouette of the craft as it went over. There was no
noise, no chopping of the air by blades, no throb of an internal combustion
engine. Just barely a whisper, almost as if you only imagined it, of a hum.
The silhouette looked like a helicopter to me. I'm no authority on aircraft,
but I thought maybe a Comanchee. It had little stubby wings on it, and a bit
of a bulbous nose on the front, where the spotlight was still on.
I had always thought this was a helicopter, maybe some kind of stealth
technology. I scoured the Internet looking for anything about this, with no
results. Then recently I read other reports of similar sightings as mine,
calling them UFOs. Maybe that's what this was too. I know I've never seen
anything like it before. I saw this same craft several times that summer.
Always at night, and never as close as the first sighting. It was out in the
same general area, and I would see it going back and forth between the plants.
Always at a distance. It was always low and travelling in patterns, back and
forth, like it was surveying something, or looking for something.
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The Coastal City Of East London, South Africa Bright Object And Smoke Trail
Date: July 2006. Time: 11:00 a.m.
Location - The coastal city of East London, South Africa.
Witnesses - Mother and son + son's friends.
1) My son and his friends were playing on the school sports field, when he
noticed what appeared to be a bright star in the sky. (At that time of the
day, 11am it is far too bright to see stars in our location.)
He described it as a very bright star with a thin Smokey trail behind it. It
was very high in the sky, higher than planes fly and far higher than rockets
climb to, and it as not a Satellite. It was about the size of Venus. It then
travelled straight up out into space and was gone. No noise was heard. Several
of the other boys also saw it (UFO).
2) Two weeks later my son and I saw the same "Bright Star" with a thin Smokey
trail behind it. This time it was at 7:00 a.m.
I was getting ready to leave home and take my son to school. Our location was
East London beachfront. It was seen in the western sky.
The same bright light with the Smokey tail and again it went straight up until
it could not be seen.
We have no Military or weather bases in this area.
3) Date - February 2007. Location - Sterling high School sports field.
The same "Bright Star" with a Smokey thin tail as sighted. This time it came
from the horizon, then went straight up until it disappeared.
I am now convinced that we both saw a UFO and it took a lot of courage to
phone you Peter, as when I mention the sightings to my friends they look at me
as if I am a 'nut case" Thanks for listening and believing in me and my
sighting, I will keep in touch.
Thank you to my friend in Africa for sending in the report.
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Acacia Ridge, Australia A Large Cigar Shaped Craft
Date: November 3, 2007
Time: 12:10 a.m.
Location of Sighting: Acacia Ridge.
Number of witnesses: 1
Number of objects: 1
Shape of objects: Large Cigar Shaped Craft.
On Saturday November 3, I came off the Ipswich motorway and under the bridge
and noticed a huge cigar shaped craft immediately. First I thought it was in
direct proportion to 3 Holden blimps joined end on end.
I was on Granard Road when I saw it, turned 90 degrees into Beaudesert Road
and lost sight of it, and then into Boundary Road where I thought I would be
able to see it again, instead, in the sky around the same direction was a
large 747 that was only a third of the size of what I saw in the air and the
747 was much closer.
The time was just after midday and it was a very clear sky except for 2 wispy
clouds.
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Near Sea World Orlando, Florida 5 Cylinder - Oblong UFOs
Date: November 6, 2007
Time: Between 2:00 - 2:30 p.m.
Location of Sighting: Very near Sea World, Orlando FL.
Number of witnesses: 2
Number of objects: 5
Shape of objects: Cylinder/Oblong.
It was a clear day, blue sky, not a cloud in sight. We were having lunch
inside by the window when my mother said, "what are those?" while looking up
out the window. I looked out the window as well, which cast no reflection and
the view was clear. We both could see 5 unidentified objects in the sky. They
were all white in colour; cylinder shaped, and appeared to be very high in the
sky and all travelling together at a consistent pace. They definitely did not
have any wings, visible lights, or appear to cast any reflection. They
continued to move until they were no longer visible from where we were seated.
We agreed that they definitely weren't airplanes (nor do jet-liners travel in
"packs"), blimps (far too high, and again, blimps don't travel in packs),
balloons (at least not balloon/round shaped and also far too high to be so
visible, suggesting they were much larger), or anything else we could compare
them to. I'm still stumped by what they were.
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Kelowna, British Columbia Bright Light At Times Flashing Red (Disappears)
Date: November 10, 2007
Time: 5:45 p.m.
Location of Sighting: Kelowna.
Number of witnesses: 2
Number of objects: 1
Shape of objects: Flat and round.
I was out on my balcony this particular evening and it was getting dark.
There is a big mountain right behind my house. I saw a bright white light and
it wasn't moving, just kind of hovering. A few times a red light flashed and
then remained solid.
It did not seem to move at all, and there was no sound, then it started to
slowly move to the left and then got faster. It then disappeared, which I
found odd because the only place it could have gone was inside the mountain,
which was impossible. For the position it was in I cannot think of one thing
to explain this.
During this time I called my daughter to come and see it and she came out and
saw the whole thing as well. It's weird but the thought never crossed my mind
to grab a camera. This all took place in about 4-5 minutes and I was
mesmerized.
This object was not a plane or helicopter, it was too close to me and there
was no sound whatsoever.
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San Marcos, California 2 Oscillating Tube Like Objects
Date: November 12, 2007
Time: 0945
Location of Sighting: Home.
Number of witnesses: 2
Number of objects: 2
Shape of objects: Tube.
I looked up at a mostly clear, sunny sky. I watched a puff of cloud appear
and saw something reflective in the cloud. The cloud dissipated in just a few
moments and 2 oscillating tube like objects hung in the air at what my guess
was 3000 feet of altitude. They were no more than a couple hundred feet from
one another.
I ran to the house for my binoc's, which only took 10 seconds to be back out
front. One of the tubes had disappeared. I focused on the other, and watched
it spinning, like a stick you'd throw for your dog to fetch. It was shiny and
bulbous on each end of the tube. The bulbous parts were 2x as shiny as the
rest of the object. It was generating it's own light, and extremely bright.
When I looked away it was like having looked at an electric arc. Then, I
caught a glimpse of the other object very close to the one I have been
observing materialize from nothing for a few seconds and disappear again.
I glassed back to the one in clear view and it had morphed it's shape to a "C"
(just like I've typed) It had a steady equilibrium, then flipped over and
over, then returned to it's steady movement. My neighbour came out to put his
garbage cans at the curb, I called him over for a look, handing him the
binoc's. He was able to observe the object too. He's about 75, so I can't
say how good his eyes are, he couldn't figure out what it was.
He gave me the binoc's and I looked back to the object. It resumed its
flipping and spewed white smoke from the ends of the "C" and was obscured in
seconds. In a few more seconds the smoke cleared and the object was gone.
Just one minute later, a commercial type U.S. Government jet flew right thru
where the objects had disappeared. The objects were directly in the flight
path for inbound McCellan Palomar Airport. The jet that had approached was
flying west to east, opposite the flight path.
My impression was of deliberate movement of both the objects, even when
spinning or flipping, and the objects moving with stops and starts, not far
from where they first appeared. No rapid accelerations or decelerations were
observed. They may have been surveying the area?
I had a sighting, a year or so ago, that was very similar.
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San Diego, California An Enormous Boomerang Shaped Craft
Date: November 13, 2007
Time: 8:00 p.m.
Location of Sighting: Overhead travelling West/ Northwest.
Number of witnesses: 5
Number of objects: 1
Shape of objects: V.
I went out back and, the neighbours were all talking about something in the
sky and a large number of flashing red lights. When I first looked up I was so
disoriented that I thought fireworks or some type of celestial event was
happening in the sky. The lights took up such a large portion of the sky that
my brain could not immediately conceptualise a single craft that could
possibly contain this many lights. As I stood dumbfounded I realized that
directly overhead was an enormous craft shaped more like a boomerang than a V
with red lights blinking in what appeared to be a very irregular pattern.
The lights flashed very quickly and sporadically back and forth on both wings
in an almost confusing manner. Clearly there was no fuselage of any kind. It
was a minimum of 3 if not 4 inches wide at arms length. Probably more when it
was directly over my head. I was in disbelief, (and still am) over the size,
as we live in a flight path for San Diego airport and I see all manor of
planes day and night. I have never seen anything so big in the sky. It
appeared to be silent, but I will admit that I also heard the neighbour point
that out, so that could be the power of suggestion and not my own thought.
However, when he did point out that it didn't appear to be making any noise
and it was passing overhead, I completely agreed with him. It moved fairly
slowly as well. I was able to see it in the sky for over a minute
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Winter Haven, Florida Round Orange Balls Of Light (UFOs)
Date: November 16, 2007
Time: 6:30 p.m.
Location of Sighting: In the sky over Lake Wales, Fl around the intersection
of Hwy 27 and Hwy 60.
Number of witnesses: 5
Number of objects: 5
Shape of objects: Round Orange Balls of light with and aura or glow around
them.
Me and four other people seen something outside our house that looked like a
plane had blown up in the sky, but as it fell it became two orange colored
lights, then 3, then 4, then 5, they stopped falling right above the tree line
and hovered making shapes that looked like an L, C, and a W but they weren't
perfect, and the lights would dim out then pop up in different places. They
did not look like a plane blowing up after the two lights stopped falling and
then they hovered and multiplied. Some of the lights would stay lit while they
moved upwards it was not just a few sparkles in the sky that looked cool. It
was big lights that flew faster than any plane I ever seen and hovered in one
spot after flying in random patterns. Before it went out of my vision it went
back to one orange light the same size as it started and then ducked behind
the tree line and then back up a little so you could just barely see it threw
the tree tops and flew off to the left out of sight.
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Miami, Florida A Bright Orange Round Object
Date: November 20, 2007
Time: 5:45 p.m.
Location of Sighting: 107 Ave. exits and Don Shula Expressway.
I saw a bright orange round object with two bright orange (looked like
spotlight) but enormous in height coming out of this object, I immediately
called the police and stayed on the phone with them until the object
disappeared. First the two bright orange (spot lights) started to be absorbed
back into the object, then the object itself started becoming smaller and
smaller until it disappeared.
It was impressive, in the colour and the height of these two lights coming out
of the object and just cruising along with no noise.
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73's and Bye from Peter(ZS2ABF) - East London, South Africa.
73 - Peter, ZS2ABF @ ZS0ELD
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