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South African Ham Radio UFO Interest Group. Known as (SAHRUIG).
NEWS Volume 1 News letter No.62

Don't forget to "LOOK UP TO THE SKIES" you may see something exiting.
Your Comments, Sightings or UFO/Paranormal stories will be welcomed and
are  needed. When submitting Sighting reports please send as much detail
as possible.
 Also any sightings seen by "non Hams" are also welcome via Email.
Address them via Packet to ZS2ABF @ ZS0ELD.ELD.ECP.ZAF.AF
Or Via Email to ptottle@qwest.co.za

*** This weeks news comes to you from SAUFOR. One of South Africa's own
UFO Reaserch groups, that I have joined forces with
to give you more local information on sightings within our own country
(Republic of South Africa) ***

LISTED ON BBS

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SAUFOR - Freelance investigator, Night Stalker shares his research into
UFO sightings in South Africa Home

      The Night Stalker's Report on 11 August 2003

      The following is a list of incidents that I have come across while
      Researching South African UFO Experiences and discussing SAUFOR with

      others during my travels. The people are real, the incidents are
real, and
      while the individuals concerned are not all that keen on having
their
      personal details splashed all over the internet in this context.
      A few South African Incidents.

      The stone in the sky.

      Two brothers and some friends were lying on the lawn of their home
in
      Pretoria after having played a bit of ball in the back yard. As they
were
      lying on their backs looking at the sky, what looked like a huge
rock flew
      Overhead on a straight-line trajectory. As it approached, it flew
directly
      overhead and they saw that it was in fact not a rock, but a craft.
The
      Brown colour was in fact due to rust streaks on the outer hull. It
      continued overhead and then passed on over the horizon. It was not
      Aerodynamically shaped nor did it have any wings nor did it conform
to any
      Known form of craft. I have known these guys for a number of years
now and
      I would personally vouch for their credibility. I would have taken
the
      word of any one of them, but there were a number of eyewitnesses to
this
      event which makes it even more credible. I have asked them if they
would
      be willing to be interviewed and have said yes.


      Long and cylindrical with portholes

      I have a very good friend who used to live in Cape Town. He now
works in
      Joburg. He was witness to a long cylindrical object that floated
slowly
      overhead. Not recognizing it as any known type of aircraft, he
climbed up
      onto the roof of his house to watch the UFO. He attracted the
attention of
      his neighbour. Two of the neighbour's kids in turn called their
friends from
      across the road. Around 20 people witnessed the UFO. There are
      photographs of this object, for which there is yet to be an
explanation.


      May 2001. Hartbeespoortdam.

      In May 2001, at the time of the planetary alignment, a UFO was
spotted
      over Hartbeespoortdam. There was an article on it in the local
newspaper.
      A so called expert dismissed it as an optical illusion caused by the

      Planetary alignment at that time. Funny thing is, there were several

      independent witnesses, and this incident took place at around 4 in
the
      afternoon. There is no known way that the light of any planet could
be
      visible in broad daylight, let alone move across the sky. (It has
been
      known for Venus to be visible in the sky during daylight hours but
that is
      only under very specific conditions.) During the planetary alignment

      however, if the sun and the planets were in a straight line, none of
the
      inner planets would be visible in the direct glare of the sun.

      I too, have on three occasions seen these phenomena, here where I
live
      Hartbeespoortdam.

      Once I was alone. I watched it, it was unusual, and moving slowly
away, I
      got in my car and headed off down the road after it. But it out
      accelerated my vehicle, and disappeared into the mountains at a low
      altitude.

      Once, around 01h00, I heard the dogs barking and went outside to see
what
      the commotion was all about. I saw this craft (ball of light)
motionless
      in the air above the Pelindaba nuclear research facility. I watched
it for
      about ten minutes then went inside and woke up my mom, and asked her
to
      come outside and verify. She commented that it was brighter than the
house
      on the hill - On the farm next door (about a 0.5 KM away). After a
while,
      we went back inside to make some coffee, when we came back out again
...
      it was gone. It was there for about an hour.

      The most recent sighting by myself was about three months ago. Some
      friends and I were stargazing. They have a telescope and some
evenings we
      sit on the veranda and have dinner while we point the telescope at
      different planets and stars for their kids (and us) to look at. This

      particular evening, there were 5 adults (myself included) and three
      children (8-14) on the veranda having dinner. It was late dusk, and
not
      yet pitch black. We were all looking at the sky, searching for a new

      target for the telescope, when to the north, we saw what we thought
was a
      shooting star. It was however really bright. and it burned for about
20
      seconds, then went off. Twenty seconds later it went back on again,
and
      then twenty seconds later off again. This continued for about 10 -
12 on -
      off cycles, as the light descended vertically through the atmosphere
and
      disappeared behind some mountains about 10 Km to the north of us. We
were
      all equally awestruck, and had no explanation as to what it could
possibly
      be. From my own personal perspective, It would be entirely
consistent with
      a craft firing a retro rocket to slow its descent through the
atmosphere.

      There is nothing else that I could think of that would follow that
kind of
      a trajectory or illumination pattern.


      Pretoria.

      A while back, I had a meeting with a very interesting individual. He
has
      asked me not to advertise his name in conjunction with this story
but has
      said that he would be quite happy to give a personal account to any
      serious researcher.

      In about the mid eighties he was travelling through the Karoo when
he
      noticed an unusual craft in the distance off to the side of the
road. He
      stopped and watched it disappears over the eastern horizon. It was
one of
      those ... 'yes-kool-but-who-would-believe-me-stories'

      A few years went by and he overheard the discussion of a truck
driver
      mentioning something similar. The truck driver gave a more exact
location
      where he had seen a craft emerge from between two koppies. The
Driver had
      approached a T intersection where he had stopped to check for
approaching
      traffic. Directly ahead he had seen the craft emerge from between
two
      hills and hover over the veldt about a kilometre in front of him.
There
      were no other vehicles, so the driver pulled away and turned left
towards
      Beaufort West. The craft started moving, keeping pace with the truck
but
      following an intersecting vector. The driver continued along the
road
      until the craft was about 100 meters away. The driver then decided
to stop
      and take a better look at the craft. He also felt that if they both
      continued on their current paths, the two would eventually meet.

      The craft approached to within about 50 meters, it illuminated the
truck
      with an intense light , circled it and streaked away vertically into
the
      night sky. The truck driver could not relate the craft to any known
form
      of aircraft.

      This friend of mine then decided to investigate the incident for
himself.
      He took his video camera, got in his bakkie and headed of for the
Karoo.

      He spent two weeks camping out at the place described by the
trucker. I
      watched the videotape. He hiked through the koppies and hills and
took
      panoramic shots of the area. It is about the most inhospitable
desert
      mountain terrain that I have ever seen. There is but nothing there.
No
      Farmhouses or settlements. Just gorges and cliffs and very very
rocky
      terrain. (From my own personal point of view ... I have seen many
types of
      terrain, but this was very extreme, in the harshness of the
terrain.)

      He found a dirt track, which led up into the mountains. He hiked
back to
      his bakkie and the next day he followed this track to see where it
went.
      There were no signs and no gates. Eventually the track stopped
between the
      mountains. There was no destination, nothing there. The track just
      stopped. He decided to camp there that night.

      It was after dusk when he saw the craft. He picked up his camera and

      started filming. The craft approached. In the video footage you see
the
      approaching light. It is dark, and basically you are looking at a
light in
      the night sky. It is a shaky image. One could dismiss it as maybe
footage
      of an oncoming cars headlights. Then, it did something I have never
seen
      before. The light divided, three other lights detached from it, and
      streaked away into the distance. And, I cannot relate to any flying
craft
      that has ever done that.

      He says that at that point, he started getting a bit worried, so he
      stopped filming and ran back to his pickup. He started it and headed
back
      down the track. The craft pursued him, keeping track with him. He
tried to
      tape it. The videotape becomes a bit chaotic at this point. There is
the
      sound of the pickup racing down a dirt road, you can hear the motor
and
      the clatter of stones and occasional flashes of light. He says he
left the
      camera running on the seat next to him, but he was scared out of his
wits
      and was more interested in getting the hell out of there and not
driving
      of the edge of a mountain than in taking footage of what it was that
was
      chasing him.

      Like I said, I watched the tape with him several times, and I tried
to
      decide for myself if this was a hoax or not. He was in the area as
      described. The road does exist, there were unusual lights in the sky

      around him, and he did drive down that road with a speed. He is
adamant
      that it did happen. I sat in his home, his wife and kids were there.
And,
      the way he tells it, with his wife sitting there, I had a tendency
to
      believe him.

      I listened to his story. I asked him who he thought they were. He
said
      that they were an alien race that occupied subterranean bases around
the
      planet.

      It was the only logical conclusion he could make. He had hiked that
area
      for two weeks and there was definitely nothing on the surface. That
craft
      that split up and chased him down the mountain had to come from
somewhere
      ... The only logical conclusion was that it had to be from an
underground
      base.

      He showed me piles of material that he had researched on beings that
could
      possibly fit that description. What they looked like ... he could
only
      guess from the reports of others. He had seen enough to definitively

      satisfy his own personal curiosity for once and for all. He felt
that he
      had been warned off, and he was not going back there again ... ever.

      And here's the rub, from the way he narrated his experiences ... I
wasn't
      so sure if I wanted to go and check out that road in the mountain at
night
      ... at least not alone anyway.

      These are stories of a personal nature, and I can guarantee you
that, from
      my own perspective, they are absolutely truthful. As far as my
friends are
      concerned, I can vouch for them, but you are most welcome to come
and chat
      to them yourself and make up your own mind, and all have assured me
that
      their accounts (myself included) will stand up to a polygraph.

      I am going to re-interview the above individuals and add more
details as
      time goes by. I think, that from a consistency point of view, I will
re
      interview these people after a year. If they are bona fide then the
story
      shouldn't change over the course of a year.


      Cheers for now

      Keep looking at the sky

      Night Stalker.



      Following is another report from our friend about interesting
research
      relating 2 the planet Mars, that we have been delving in2 over the
last 2
      years or so... see the website that i had 2 put up anonymously due 2
the
      "sensitivity" of the info ---> http://www.geocities.com/anomaly502/


      Here a follow up on the Mars Pix

      The Mystery of Anomaly 502.

      by Nights talker.


      Greetings fellow surfers. Allow me to introduce myself. I am the
      Night Stalker. I am a surfer, programmer, self-confessed hacker
(white hat
      of course) and I like to explore. I am also a freelance investigator
for
      SAUFOR and like to research unusual things. And for now, that is all
you
      are going to know about me.

      Rather, let me get on with the subject of this article.

      It was about two years ago that an acquaintance of mine and I were
chatting
      online. It was in the context of trying to resolve whether or not we
are
      alone in the universe. Could we definitively resolve the question?
We
      chatted about this and that and then the discussion turned to the
red
      plane, Mars! What was the buzz on the face of Mars, what about the
      pyramid. Were they natural or were they created by some artificial
entity.

      Well, as we chatted online, he made a fantastic claim. There was not
just
      the face, there was other far more compelling evidence of another
      civilisation that had been on Mars. Whether it was a Martian species
or an
      outpost of some other entity that had visited Mars could not be
determined
      at that time but, there was evidence of something that had not been
      created by nature. There was a structure of a complexity that could
not
      possibly be created by natural forces as we understand them.

      Not only was there this group of structures, but also there was
detailed
      photographic evidence of its existence. Yeah, right. Send it to me,
and
      I'll take a look for myself. So, he did just that. The sequence of
images
      showed pix of something that was not created by Mother Nature,
because she
      don't work in straight lines..

      I forwarded these images to my friend CRiSTo who runs SAUFOR and
asked him
      to post the images on his site. I also asked him to ask around and
see if
      he could pick up any info on this entity that had been named ANOMALY
502.

      CRiSTo, myself and others carried out extensive web searches to see
if we
      could find any reference to this entity and, apart from some dead
ends
      ending up in some obscure URL's, there was nothing. I have looked at
those
      images from time to time and have wondered what to make of them.

      It is some two years that have passed and then, last month, I was
chatting
      to a friend and the subject once again turned to the issue of life
on
      Mars. Once again I looked over the images, and once again, I set off
in
      search of an answer. If it did exist in cyberspace, then, I would
find it.

      And, lo and behold, this time, I found something very curious. So,
for you
      conspiracy buffs, here is something that I am going to propose, not
as
      truth, not as fact, but as a conspiracy with a number of very
interesting
      aspects.

      Have a read, and when you are finished, you decide for yourself.

      In about May 2001, a sequence of images surfaced depicting a
structure on
      the surface of Mars. Exact location undisclosed. The images were
marked
      with certain text, depicting the sequence and date. It also referred
to an
      entity called IEC and a date marker in the document/project
reference
      referring to the year 1998.

      Logically this would date the images as circa 1998. Well logic says
that if
      a satellite took a photo of an anomaly on Mars in 1998, well then it

      stands to reason that it must have been launched in about 1997. I
didn't
      expect to find anything, but to my total surprise, I discovered that
there
      was a 'qualification' launch of an Arianne rocket designated as ---
wait
      for it --- A 502.

      In fact A 502 was launched in July 1997. And, as I researched the A
502
      launch, more and more curious aspects surrounding this launch
vehicle came
      to light. Allow me to tell you about them.

      The launch payload was put together by ESTEC, an Informatics
division of
      ESA. Could the ESTEC project have been designated as IEC ?

      It was put together in a record time of just seven months, under
great
      pressure.

      The A 502 launch vehicle carried three payloads. One was the ESTEC
      project, MAQSAT and one was a dummy.

      No charges were levied for the launch.

      Now, I like to read between the lines, and some may accuse me of
reading
      too much between the lines but, if this is just a simple little
student
      launch being sponsored by some benevolent 'big brother', for an
      experimental earth orbit satellite; Why then does the front page of
the
      official website of this mission feature a picture of Earth and
Mars?
      Check it out for yourself at http://www.estec.esa.nl/teamsat/

      So, a launcher, put together in record time, with no charge to
anyone,
      with a whole lot of parts donated by other agencies, that uses
technicians
      and scientists called back out of retirement, with the ability to
achieve
      escape velocity, is launched in October of 1997 on a launcher
designated
      as A 502. It is carrying an impressive array of imaging systems, ia.

      Autonomous Vision System (AVS) , Visual Telemetry System (VTS), and
Flux
      Probe Experiment (FIPEX) - And while FIPEX may be used to measure
the
      density of hydrogen atoms in outer space - YEAH RIGHT! - in my
      understanding, Flux sensors are primarily used to sense Energy field

      strengths, and, as I said before, the official website features a
pix of
      Earth, the 'Satellite' and Mars.

      And - oh yes of course - a payload designated as a 'dummy' unit. Why

      launch a dummy satellite when there are so many fledgling agencies
who
      would love to put a live payload on an experimental launch.

      Then, A year later, an impressive sequence of images comes back.
Pictures
      of structure on the surface of Mars, with a group of structures that
must
      have been created by some kind of intelligence. A sequence of images

      designated as Anomaly 502 - Is it too great a leap of imagination to
think
      that the designation 502 refers to the launcher, and not to the
possibility
      that there are 501 other anomalies on Mars.

      (Must admit the 502 had me going for a while, I was trying to figure
out
      the significance of the 502, because it was definitely relevant.)

      Three years later these images 'leak' out. As I said before, we
searched
      the net extensively two years ago when these images came our way for
any
      combination of MARS ANOMALY 502 IEC etc, etc, etc and we found
nothing -
      nada - zilch! Now, year's later, little hints are starting to leak
out here
      and there. You, go ahead, start doing your own web search - and see
what
      you come up with.

      So, boys and girls, let me lay it out for you in plain English.

      Do you remember about five years ago when everyone was all in wonder
at
      the discovery of the face on the surface of Mars. Well, they found
more,
      much more and A502 was a rush mission to Mars to get a better set of

      images using every possible type of imaging system possible.

      Methinks that dummy, whose actual owners paid for the launch, went
      straight on to Mars, took a whole lot of enhanced images of an
entity
      designated Anomaly 502, sent them back home, then landed there -
then took
      some more images - and sent them home too. Why do I say that ?
Because my
      friends, I was told so by my acquaintance, and he sent me some pix
to prove
      it.

      Ever heard of plausible deniability? According to the public stuff,
every
      significant space agency contributed to this baby in one-way or
another,
      Nasa - Nothing. The most important aspect of the mission, The Visual

      Telemetry System, was supplied by the Brits. So, how come the
British
      (who have never launched a rocket of their own) contribute the key
      component of the mission. Wonder who told them how to put it
together ?
      Nasa ? No never.

      Now, I am not going to claim this as fact, it is just a theory, but,
you
      sit up and look around and decide for yourself how much substance
there is
      in this little conspiracy theory of mine. You go and read all about
the A
      502 mission, and look at the facts in the context that I have
outlined
      above.

      Cheers for now, Your friend
      The Night stalker
      ***********			**************                     **********
This document is shared information that is intended to assist anyone and
everyone with a further understanding of UFO information from around the
world, copyright is supported where due. Our usual thanks go to Brian Vike
for his Canadian contribution and SAUFOR.

73's and Bye from Peter ZS2ABF - East London,  South Africa.


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