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I6KZR  > TECH     07.10.15 01:05l 212 Lines 7843 Bytes #-3456 (0) @ WW
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Subj: Re: Decoding BBS Data files (TEXT)
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Sent: 151007/0049 @:GB7COW.#44.GBR.EU Sally 7.0.023 #44.GBR.EU $:7792d_I6KZR

Inviato da: I6KZR@GB7COW.#44.GBR.EURO     I6KZR@GB7COW   I6KZR
In un suo messaggio G8MNY ha scritto:

> From: G8MNY@GB7CIP.#32.GBR.EURO
> To  : TECH@WW
> 
> By G8MNY                             (Updated May 15)
> For those of you who are still unable to use these Packet BBS bulletins, 
here
> is how I manually do it.
> 
> The files are flagged as B$D in the BBS TSD field. They may contain data 
such
> as pictures, programs, databases, sounds etc. often PKZip or JPEG 
compressed
> which has then been encoded in 7+ format to go over the BBS text system.
> 
> ENCODING
> ~~~~~~~~
> Data   Compressor   Compressed      BBS Text       Sent BBS
> Files    Program       File         Converter     Text friendly
>                                     Program          Files
> .DAT \
> .TXT ³                                            ³ SEND.P01  10K
> .BAS  \___PKZIP________NAME.ZIP_______7Plus_______/ SEND.P02  10K
> .COM  / or RAR32    Or a PICTURE.JPG              \ SEND.P03  10K
> .EXE ³                 say 33k                    ³ SEND.P04   8K
> .DLL /                                              Total=38k
> Total=120k
> 
> The part files (normally more than one) are numbered in HEX, part 1 = P01, 
P02
> up to PFF = 255 parts. File size by 7+ default is limited to about 10k, 
but
> nowadays there is no good reason for this & larger files can easily be 
made
> with the 7PLUS/SB=36000 switch to make up to 36k files!
> 
> Paket6.2 program includes scripts for making & sending them etc.
>     
> Inside a 7+ bbs data file as well as the usual BBS headers & tails you 
will
> find this sort of thing...
> 
>   go_7+. 001 of 004 NAME.JPG     0076254 2280 08A (7PLUS v2.0) °±²Ûﺬ
>  8bit data 8bit data 8bit data 8bit data 8bit data 8bit data 8bit data
>  8bit data 8bit data 8bit data 8bit data 8bit data 8bit data 8bit data
>             SAY 500 lines of no space gobbly gook data!!  
>  8bit data 8bit data 8bit data 8bit data 8bit data 8bit data 8bit data
>  8bit data 8bit data 8bit data 8bit data 8bit data 8bit data 8bit data
>   stop_7+. (NAME.P01/04)     [368961E5]                        °±²Û‰¸0
> 
> The 7+ part is less than 70 characters long per line, so no system should 
word
> wrap it, there are no spaces, so no system should concatenate them, & 
there are
> no special character sequence like CTRL C, ESC, etc. that will kill the 
comms
> link. All lines are the same length so some Rx errors can be manually 
spotted.
> 
> DECODING
> ~~~~~~~~
>  Rx  BBS    Rx LOG  Extract    7+      Decode Compressed Uncompress  Data
>   Files      File     7+      Parts       7+      File    Program     
Files
>                    Program             Program                      / .DAT
> (SENT.P01)³                 ³SENT.P01³                              ³ .TXT
> (SENT.P02) \_.LOG___7PLUS__/ SENT.P02 \___7PLUS__NAME.ZIP__PKUNZIP__/ .BAS
> (SENT.P03) /  43k    -X    \ SENT.P03 / or RAR32    33k             \ .COM
> (SENT.P04)³                 ³SENT.P04³          or PICTURE.JPG      ³ .EXE
> Total=42k                   Total=38k                               \ .DLL
>                                                                  Total=
120k
> N.B. PKZIP, PKUNZIP, 7PLUS & RAR32 programs have /? or /H or -H help 
options.     
> 
> Before downloading them, you need a program called 7PLUS, & possibly 
PKUNZIP
> or equivalents, you may well find these in the data area of your BBS where 
it
> can be downloaded using Yapp, pP or Bacomm, data transfer protocols. Some
> packet programs have the 7plus or Zip functions embedded for you.
> 
> THIS IS WHAT I DO
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> 1/ List the message index on the BBS with the B$D messages of interest.
> 
> 2/ Turn on your log file to record the download.
> 
> 3/ Enter the BBS message Nos (e.g. R 497974 497973 497971 ) you may also 
want
>    to log any descriptive text file, possibly to a separate log file. If 
the
>    part numbers are consecutive or nearly so try.. R 497971-497974 as the 
order
>    does not matter nor does the odd unwanted file.
> 
> 4/ When finished (it may take quite a while) close the log file. It does 
not
>    matter if other items are logged as well, but not from another stream! 
You
>    can do this again & again until you have all the parts needed in a log 
or
>    logs.
> 
> 5/ Put these log(s) file into a separate directory (folder) with the 
decoding
>    programs (e.g. C:\PAKET\7PLUS ).
> 
> 6/ Extract the 7+ parts from the log or logs...
>    e.g. 7PLUS APR10.LOG -X
>    This should give you the same Hex numbered parts as was sent.
>    e.g. FILENAME.P01 FILENAME.P02 etc.
> 
> 7/ Now decode the 7+ parts into one file.. same command but with no -X
>    e.g. 7PLUS FILENAME
>    If there are no errors, this give you the sent file. e.g. FILENAME.JPG
>    or FILENAME.ZIP
> 
> 8/ Unpack the ZIP file, you need PKUNZIP. e.g. PKUNZIP FILENAME
>    to give the original files... e.g. FRED.DAT, FRED.BAS, FRED.EXE etc.
> 
> 
> Once you have unpacked the picture, programs, data, etc. & it works, don't
> forget to tell the sender it worked/failed etc. & what you had tried it 
on.
> 
> Then for good housekeeping install the item in a suitable directory 
(folder) &
> set up Windows desktop to open it etc. Purge out the old transfer files 
from
> the 7plus directory.
> 
> As you can see the whole thing is not that friendly done manually, if you 
write
> a batch file to handle the procedure, it will make it far more convenient 
until
> something goes wrong!
> 
> As I have said before, BBS SYSOP have to vet BBS content, & any difficulty 
in
> doing this often results in message deletion. Just 1 message part astray 
or
> damaged means the whole lot is a waste of space on the BBSs, & complex 2 
way
> error procedure between the recipient & sender is needed to fix it. This 
is not
> always possable as the BBS SR or SP routing tables are different to the 
multi
> routing used for the original SB, so your reply may never get there! 
> 
> This is why for most things I prefer the EVERY EFFICIENT ASCII GRAPHICS if 
it
> will do the job.
> 
> 
> Of course you can write/use a script macro to do all the above fo you
> automatically, Dave VK2AWZ @ VK6ZRT writes..
> Ok John on decoding 7+ files manually, and it certainly is a long process!
> However Winpac 6.8 does it automatically, when one has downloaded the 7+
> files. What happens is that when the last one is received up jumps the
> inwards message icon, that says that the files are decoded and picture
> number (xxx) is stored in the decode directory. I go to this directory 
with
> Windows explorer and click on the respective xxx.JPG, that activates my
> preferred pictures program! 73 - Dave, VK2AWZ @ VK6ZRT
> 
> 
> Why don't U send out an interesting bul?
> 
> 73 De John, G8MNY @ GB7CIP
> 
> 

HI John,
All that you described can be done automatically and without effort by a 
great amateur program: SALLY 7.

The author is Ted G8NPF, we convinced him to resume the upgrade to the 
operating system 7, because he had abandoned the project with the end of the 
XP operating system.

With great spirit of collaboration has begun to program and re-create that 
wonderful piece of sofware which was "Sally 4" for XP.

Now the program is almost ready, it works great and if you want to be a 
Sally fan, you can download the program or from my website, which see below, 
or you can do so by accessing the Yahoo Sally Group.



Frase del giorno:
Give me a firm spot on which to stand, and I will move the earth. Archimede


73 Ciao a tutti Renzo.


li, mer 07 ottobre 2015 00:26 (+2.00) 

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