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G8MNY  > TECH     05.07.06 21:22l 64 Lines 2772 Bytes #999 (0) @ WW
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Read: DL1LCA DL8ZX GUEST
Subj: Simple PIV Test Circuit
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From: G8MNY@GB7CIP.#32.GBR.EU
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By G8MNY                                             (New Jul 06)
(8 Bit ASCII Graphics use code page 437 or 850)
I use this rather dangerous circuit to test high voltage diode Peak Inverse
Voltage & high voltage transistors breakdown voltage.

         Small Valve Radio
         Mains Transformer
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        ____   ³ º( 360V   22k all        ³              ³   _____
Live >ÄÄo  oÄÄÄ´ º(_ 0V     ³  1W         o       1/10  3M3 ³ÚÄÄÄ¿³ Scope
240V    TEST    )º( 360V   22k        Component   Ratio  ³  ³³   ³³
                )º(_________³ 1350V     under      Arm   ÀÄÄ´ÀÄÄÄÙ³
                )º  b       peak        test             Y  ³o 0 o³
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The use of a test button means that the high voltage is not applied until you
are ready & WELL CLEAR of the circuit!

The phase of the secondary connection (a & b) to the mains is important if
>700V RMS is wanted for testing. The 4 22k 1W (not rated!) Rs limit the maximum
test current to 15mA, which is not enough to damage power devices. (but could
just harm U!)

The DC scope needs a high voltage probe, that can just be several high value Rs
in series with the standard 1Mê I/P to give approx 10:1 reduction.
N.B. Commercial probes are not normally rated at a high enough voltage!

The scope then shows the polarity & safe breakdown voltage....

    _ _+1350V           _
  /' `\               /' `\                                _____
 |     |             |     |          +ve conducting      |     |       ^1000v
³       ³           ³       ³______³   ______            ³       ³_____ v PIV
         ³       ³                    ³      ³       ³
          |     |    -ve conducting           |     |    -ve conducting &
    -1350V_\._./           Diode/Transistor    \._./      zener breakdown
   No Load                PIV breakdown > 1400V               action.


For exact PIV measurement you can calibate the scope gain to the ratio arm by
measuring the known mains voltage & applying x1.4 peak factor (or X 2.8 p-p).


Sometimes you see proper avalanche where at the breakdown voltage the device
conducts heavily (SCR like), or oscillates at HF (negative Z). Components like
these used with say mains & a PSU cap will be destroyed in a few uS if the
triggering PIV peak is ever reached.

  /|                 OR       /°°°°
 | ³                         | °°°°
³  ³_____________           ³  °°°°_________
SCR like breakdown             Negative Z


Why Don't U send an interesting bul?

73 de John G8MNY @ GB7CIP



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