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VK2ZRG > TECH     07.04.06 08:08l 31 Lines 1041 Bytes #999 (0) @ WW
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Subj: Noise figure query
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VK2ZRG/TPK 1.83d Msg #:2347  Date:07-04-06  Time:2:45Z

Hello all,

  I am writing a programme that, amongst other things, calculates an
overall noise figure of three cascaded amplifiers, with provision for
having a loss component in front of each stage. The first loss would
be that between the antenna and the receiver (or pre-amp) input for
example.

  Assuming you have a perfect receiver of zero dB noise figure with a
loss of 3 dB between the receiver and an antenna (whose effective
temperature is 290 Kelvins), my query is this :-

  If I cool the input loss to zero Kelvins so that the 3 dB loss no longer
generates any noise, does the 3 dB loss reduce the noise coming from the
antenna? (I know that it's not possible to get to absolute zero, but let's
pretend that you can.)
  I think the system temperature reduces to 145 K ...what do you think.


73s from Ralph VK2ZRG@VK2WI.#SYD.NSW.AUS.OC

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